Way to enable Vertical Scroll?

Hello,
When working with my Montage projects (or any project really) I usually have a great number of tracks that will exceed the scope of the view so I have to grab the vertical scroll bar to move up and down my track list.

I’m on a Mac and if I hold my command key and scroll up or down using my magic mouse, the behavior is a horizontal zoom in WaveLab as opposed to what I’d expect to be a vertical zoom up and down my track list.

If I swipe my mouse left to right, I get a horizontal scroll as expected. But if I swipe my mouse bottom to top or top to bottom, I get the same behavior with a horizontal scroll.

It’s as if there’s no support for any type of vertical scrolling aside from manually using the scroll bar.

Is there a way to enable the vertical scroll and zoom in WaveLab??? :thinking:

There is no way to use the mouse wheel just to scroll the tracks. I agree this would be a welcome addition.
This being said, they are several convenient features:

  • If you have a mouse with a 3rd button, click and drag anywhere in the track display, to “drag” the view both vertically and horizontally.
  • Use Alt + Shift + mouse wheel to zoom the tracks
  • Use the navigator features
  • Don’t forget the sideline track feature.

Thank you!

The Navigator window is a good alternative. I also just stumbled across having my cursor directly over the track title pane and moving up and down will allow me to scroll vertically with the mouse as I’d like.

It’s still not quite what I was looking for b/c both alternative require me to leave the main editing window but they will suffice for me.

Any possible plans of having the vertical scroll implemented into the main editing view the same way the horizontal scroll is working with any future updates?

Maybe I’m not understanding the request but on Mac, I can hold OPTION while scrolling up & down with the Apple Magic Mouse and it scrolls the tracks vertically.

Strange, because here, Option + zoom in-out the whole screen (macOS feature I guess, not a WaveLab feature).

Same here for me @PG1

@Justin_Perkins I am running Ventura 13.7.1 (although this shouldn’t make any difference) and holding the option key while moving up and down on the magic mouse does nothing.

While holding down the “command” key will perform a horizontal zoom. It does nothing vertically.

I am using an apple keyboard so though the option vs command keys may perform differently from what you have. The overall result is still as I’d mentioned.

Interesting. Check this video:

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I found the reason: it works if you disable the macOS system option:

Accessibility > Use scroll gesture with modifier key to zoom.

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Yes. Interesting.

For macOS accessibility I use the option that allows me to hold CONTROL + Scroll to zoom in anywhere on the screen in any app.

Okay, I see that it does work for you so it must be the accessibility section where you’ve set something up. I have never enabled any accessibility options b/c I simply have never needed them but if there’s something within those settings that allows you to enabled the vertical scroll with the magic mouse I’d certainly be interested in knowing how you’ve set it up.

Perhaps I could dupe your setup and identify which option allows you that functionality and if it doesn’t inadvertently enable some other feature for which would be awkward for me; I’d use it.

Could you tell me or share a screenshot of what you have enabled within Accessibility?

Here’s mine, which is basically the default setting if one doesn’t select to enable them.

Thanks

These are the settings that work for me (but they were not the default settings for me).
IOW, with these settings, Option + mouse wheel works as you want.

I’m not really sure what’s different for me. The vertical zoom has worked for me on a variety of Macs and OS versions in the last 5+ years (maybe more) and I don’t recall having to do any real special settings.

I’ve changed my settings to mimic your screenshots without any behavioral change. I also have tried other mentioned suggestions from @PG1 to get it to work but the results are the same.

At this point, I’m just going to go with the alternatives @PG1 provided since they work.

I’ll spend some time going through other system settings when I have time and attempt to determine which setting is the magic bullet for this but it’s simply not a productive task for me right now.

If I find what works, I’ll update this post with the answer.

Thanks

Btw, what OSX version are you on?

Sonoma, but I know it has worked on at least some macOS versions leading up to Sonoma.

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Hello! Bumping this conversation, as I too would welcome the addition of being able to choose the direction of the vertical scroll wheel, and also to be able to use a horisontal scroll wheel. I use a Logitech mouse with both vertical and horisontal sroll wheels, so it would be very logical to be able to use them for what they’re meant for. I work in both Pro Tools and Wavelab, so it’s always a brain-twister to remember how the scroll wheels operate differently in both and I find myself trying every combination of modifier keys in Wavelab before I get where I need to be. Wavelab is the only workstation that has the vertical scroll wheel doing something “wrong”.

Can you show me the model of this mouse?

Do you mean a global function for all functions? That is to say, scroll horizontally (default), zoom vertically in the waveform (+Shift), and zoom horizontally (+Control/Command on Mac)? or only for one of these functions?

The model is MX Master 3S for Mac.

What I fundamentally meant was that it would at least be nice to be able to make the primary scroll wheel scroll vertically, like everyone is used to from all other applications on the computer. I can’t think of any other program that I’ve used where the vertical scroll wheel is doing horizontal scrolling by default, as it’s usually something like shift+scroll to do horizontal scrolling. Now, I understand that horizontal scrolling might be valued more than vertical scrolling in a mastering application, but it’s still always a bit off-putting for it to be so different to literally any other situation.

Being able to change the modifiers for different types of scrolling would also be welcome, e.g. in Pro Tools I scroll vertically with the vertical scroll wheel, horizontally with the horizontal scroll wheel and zoom in horizontally with the horizontal scroll wheel + a modifier key on the keyboard. Making these customisable would be a very welcome addition indeed!

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just stumbled across this thread, i know it may not help not technically being on a mouse but I thought I’d chime in, I’ve had the same results as Justin, but on a Magic Trackpad
with natural scrolling off (which is how I prefer it generally coming from windows in the ancient past)

I can double finger swipe up & down or left and right to scroll left or right, command and double finger either up/down or l/r will zoom in/out, option key double finger swipe UD or LR will scroll montage tracks vertically and shift either way will increase waveform size, all default behaviours for both WL 11 & 12 pro, and apart from turning off natural scrolling I have never set up any customisation to do it

is it possible to setup a hotkey on the mouse direction for the wheel you want to use for vertical scroll with the modifier (option) in the logi option+ software? I mean I could setup a modifier for the magic trackpad using better touch tools if I didn’t want to press the button as a scroll is a scroll