As of about two updates ago, all of my text in Mongolian Baiti has decided to set itself to italics. No italics file exists for Mongolian Baiti. I had already used the fake italics generated by Microsoft Word for several graphic design projects, so I’d rather not have to use something else (even though the fake italics are typographically unprofessional). In order, therefore, to incorporate those italics into my previous score, since Dorico would (correctly) only offer me the Regular style, I created a separate font, under a different name, comprised of the italics I wanted. Now, my regular Mongolian Baiti is displaying as italics in Dorico despite being the font that has no italics and being explicitly set to regular. This is a weird issue that I have no idea how to fix; it doesn’t seem to be a font issue, since the font works just fine in Word (as shown), and it seems to be only this one font.
I’m using up-to-date Windows 11 25H2 (KB5083769 - April 17) and Dorico 6.2.10.6140 (March 27).
I’ve had this exact thing happen before. It is probably a font validation issue.
Typically the best thing to do is to make sure Dorico is totally closed (Word too). Uninstall both fonts. You may have renamed the new font in the file name, but the underlying data may still be the old name. Make sure the font data is a totally different name. Then reinstall both fonts and it should work.
Hasn’t missing font style handling changed in Windows in Dorico 6? It’s in the release notes. Since it does not concern me I have not read in detail, but there seems to be a lot of info about this. worth Reading.
Can’t you find a Mongolian font that does have italic proper? Perhaps this does not make sense with Mongolian glyphs anyway.
Not so much “unprofessional” as “there are technical reasons why they are undesirable”. They don’t always display properly in PDFs, for one. They don’t work cross-platform either, as other OSes don’t fake missing styles.
How did you do this? Did you use a font-creation app like FontForge, FontLab, or Glyphs? It’s very important if you’re basing one font from another, to make sure that the computer doesn’t see it as a duplicate, but a separate font.
Your screenshot shows that you seem to be using Mongolian Baiti for your Staff Labels, which are in English and use the Western alphabet. Same for the Layout Name in the top left. Are you actually using Mongolian characters anywhere, or not? If not, the Western alphabet in the font looks to be a clone of Times New Roman. So I’d suggest using that, which does have a real Italic.
Wow. Thank you for calling this out. I genuinely did not realize that Mongolian Baiti and Times New Roman used the same Latin characters. You’re correct that I was only using Mongolian Baiti in English; that was just what I found and particularly liked. I feel very silly for never realizing it was just Times New Roman with faked italics (which I do still kind of like the look of for certain things, but that’s beside the point).
To answer your question, I used FontForge to create the duplicate. I may not have managed to correctly edit the underlying data to make my system see it as a separate font, although it was displaying separately in the font dropdown menus.
At this point, though, I’ll just delete the duplicate, attempt to fix my regular Mongolian Baiti, and switch to using Times New Roman. Never thought my preference of Cambria over Times would come back to bite me so hard. Thank you very much for pointing that out.
Thank you for the advice! I’ve deleted my duplicate font and that seems to have resolved the issue, since, apparently, what I wanted was essentially Times New Roman anyway. I will definitely keep this in mind for the future, though.
It’s worth stating that Dorico 6 expressly forbids faked styles, because users had reported problems with PDFs and when passing Dorico files to iPads or Macs.
