Keep in mind that most ASIO drivers operate in “exclusive mode” which prevents them from being used by other software when the application in question is running. It is meant for DAWs etc where you start the DAW and don’t want to get any sound from other applications on the computer and only want sound to come from the DAW. It could be that your interface is going into this exclusive mode in Dorico, because Dorico uses ASIO for high performance like a DAW. It actually uses the same audio engine as Cubase, so it is like if you had Cubase running.
If your interface is going into exclusive mode in Dorico, it would also be going into exclusive mode for any DAW or other notation program that uses ASIO with the same ASIO driver, and not just Dorico.
Define “broke the connection to my audio interface”. What are you seeing? Did you check the Dorico Preferences/Audio Devices? Is it set to the appropriate device? Is the sample rate set appropriately? Are the output settings correct?
Instead of bashing Steinberg for YOUR installation issues, you might frame it as" “hey, after installing Dorico my audio interface isn’t working right. What can I do to solve that issue?” That will get you much help to figure out what’s going on.
Incidentally, I’ve had absolute no installation issues at all – in seven years – with the Steinberg software and updates (Win10). It installs and works perfectly… if you follow the directions for proper installation, and reboot afterwards. I’m sorry that you experience hasn’t been as good as mine. There may be driver issues or system options that would make everything work better. Your experience is the exception, not the norm.
Firstly, thanks to everyone who chipped in wrt notating in dorico. now i’m on day 4 and hopefully i starting to get the hang of it. slow and steady, as they say. since finale is reached EOL, it makes no sense to start another big project using discontinued software, so for better or worse, i’ll try to transition to dorico.
two quick questions:
any video or quick shortcut on transposing a whole column of bars (like 20 stave ensemble with notes on many of them) up or down a specific interval.
e.g. bars 40-50, all up a minor 3rd? (in finale it’s pretty intuitive, select those bars and right click , transpose, select minor 3rd and bam, there we go.)
i’ve been reading about using noteperformer as the playback engine together with dorico, it costs like $129, any pros to that? I’m doing strictly amateur stuff (composing by notating, then playback). so far pretty chuffed with BBC SO discover sounds although yep phrasing can be slightly clunky here and there but definitely output is better than my previous GPO5 output (clearer strings, better brass , timpani etc). so i’m pretty happy as it is as far as output is concerned. Will adding noteperformer to the mix level up the output significantly? (Any comments are welcome).
Sure!. Make your selection, then choose Transpose… from the Write menu. You can also access it from the Jump bar (J) or set your own keyboard shortcut.
If you want to be absolutely sure you have selected everything in a ‘column’, use the System Track to make your selection.
And re: NotePerformer, it depends a bit on your requirements. It’s designed for (and exceptionally good at) symphonic tuttis, but the ‘humanisation’ means that sometimes, individual lines will sound a bit off in timing or tuning, and you have very little control over it. It also sounds very classical. For my own requirements it’s perfect, zero work to get 85% there, compared to many hours with an expensive sample library to reach 95%.
You can download a NotePerformer trial for free to see what you think and you can also download NotePerformer’s BBCSO Playback engine for a free trial. Super easy to use and highly recommended that you at least give them a try.
ounds like a good idea, thanks will try that out when i’ve got some time…
OK, further to that, just quick one, i install NP and from dorico apply the NP template, and that switches the playback engine seamlessly. that’s how to configure it right? (don’t want to spend hours fiddling with every single instrument library etc etc).
I did a search - re this thread below. That’s essentially how to set NP up in dorico, right?
@kelvynchin you should find some NotePerformer audio playbacks on YouTube. There are some here if you search (although there are many posts related to technical issues etc. not playing a Dorico score.) Perhaps someone here will find some for you.
On top of Transpose, there’s all sorts of manipulations you can do with Transform, and Shift I popover.
Noteperformer by itself sounds amazing – mostly because it actually applies phrasing, so any deficiencies in the sound still sound more ‘realistic’. In addition, it can apply its phrasing to other libraries like BBCSO, for incredibly realistic sounds and shapes.
On the NotePerformer links I embedded, at the bottom of that page is various NotePerformer + various libraries for comparison, if you have not found them yet.
Yes another nice thing about NotePerformer, updates are free (well, have been so far). If in the future you purchase a supported Orchestral library it supports, then you can simply use that (as I said, you purchase the support for that library for NotePerformer to work with it.)
The technical information on that page also has comments as you see, related to the different sample libraries, some need quite a bit of CPU processing as you can imagine.
The install instructions are here if you have not found them already. Quite uneventful installing it, it just seems to work.
It’s some while since I installed Noteperformer but I remember it to be painless and surprisingly easy.
In answer to your question, yes - it’s straightforward. Select: Play > Playback Template > NotePerformer and you’re done. You can switch to other templates, if you have them (I also use VSL and, sometimes, Silence).
I just need to say how terribly wrong I was about Dorico. I spent two days absolutely furious… but knowing there’s huge projects coming up, I decided to do all my work in Dorico. It took me over an hour to enter 3 bars of music because I had to stop and learn every single thing. “Okay… how do I enter a tie… that’s not working… let’s try this…” However, there were lots of, “OMG. That’s really cool. I wish Finale had that… hrm… this seems to be easier than Finale…” And then at one point, I suddently realised that I like Doric better than Finale.
People, I am fully prepared to ‘eat my words.’ I was wrong to rant. (bowing my head in humility.)
If you have quit Dorico, install NP, then open Dorico, it should show, if it doesn’t, you could try a reboot. I just followed the instructions and it all seemed to work.
There are no “dumb questions.” Because Dorico is only a few years old (and only up to v5!), many (most?) of the Dorico users here have come from another (or several) notation programs, and we understand all the frustrations ourselves.
So glad for you that under such stressful conditions you were able to find a positive solution in Dorico! Best wishes for continuing in your learning and use of it. I’m just two years in, and still learning daily — including from this great forum.
Also, thank you for taking the time to “share the love,” @aekeus. It’s been a heckuva week for all, and the good vibes are most welcome.
I think most of us have gone through this, you are not alone! This is probably why many of us are now helping out the Dorico team itself just at the moment. It is a frustrating learning curve, but at some point, you realize it’s actually understandable.
For me, I have been in Finale, Sibelius and Dorico over the past few weeks … and in complete confusion.
Nice to see your reply
Don’t forget, if you have problems, feel free to ask here at the forum, I see some of them get answered within minutes.
ounds like a good idea, thanks will try that out when i’ve got some time…