Waiting and waiting. I would think this would be a huge boon to the company if they made something around $1200 like the Raven.Steinberg, what’s the hold ip?
Perhaps the market is too small. In my experience the tactile experience of physical knobs & faders vs. virtual controls is pretty important. Cubase IC Pro has faders, but I’ve never wanted to actually use them.
I agree.
Regarding hardware for a DAW, I would much rather see Steinberg re-release, update, or even improve the discontinued CC121. Just look at the used CC121 prices today.
Me too.
Speaking of controllers, while I love the “Legacy” Metagrid, because it’s just buttons, I’m starting to fear it won’t be supported in the future. Partly because of Steinberg pushing to eliminate generic remote, and partly because the Pro version appears to satisfy demand and profitability.
I doubt Steinberg has forgotten Houston.
I wonder how long Raven will be around?
There is already something like the Raven around $1200 that works with Cubase. It’s called the Raven
Yeah, my thought too… Maybe the OP needs some more specialized functionality than the one provided?
I suspect that Generic Remote stuff will keep working for ages as it doesn’t really hurt anything. I think Steinberg is more interested in stopping new GR development rather than removing what exists.
Seems like it would be pretty straightforward to get Metagrid to talk to MIDI Remote.
Thats what I think too. A way to stop new GR development. However going forward, considering new features etc I’m not sure how well generic remote will work.
Yes, there is a way with MIDI remote. The last I checked at the Metagrid forum, users reported a lot of issues, and considering this is “legacy” I’m not sure of developer importance.
I bet the market for a controller with touch sensitive motorized faders is several times bigger than for a touch screen and they haven’t come out with a new one in years so I doubt they have a touch screen on the radar. I think the market is a subset of a subset of people and even at 1,200 it’s a stretch.
Another thing to consider is that the post and music markets are a bit different. I am guessing that there is a bit more money in post and more people willing to pay for a controller. Nobody I know of in post uses a Raven though. Literally nobody. Never seen one in real life in a post facility either. And I did try tone for about 20 minutes at a store and the idea of using touch for post just seemed bonkers to me. So cutting out the post community leaves the music community and they typically don’t want to spend much.
I’ve seen Raven’s in quite a lot of recording studios here. I have two different rooms and would happily buy two at $1200 if they’d just get it done.
I wouldn’t buy so much as a toothpick from Steven Slate at this point.
For as long as I can remember he was a salesman first. As a matter of fact the reason I completely ignored Raven after having tried it was his attitude and straight up bs, or lying as we say in the industry. Can’t trust his products if I can’t trust him.
Yeah I know it’s more common in music.
I never really saw the appeal of a software overlay on top of something that is already “virtual”. I suppose it all depends on implementation. Perhaps there’s a way to just make Cubase/Nuendo multi-touch capable on normal touch screens and then we can source those separately.
Do you remember that other brand that made a software overlay to be used on multi touch monitors? Forget what they were called and they’re still around. Italian I think. Also had a big physical controller in the works that went nowhere.
Just remembered it; Devil Technologies.
Googled it and now it’s Aidasound: DTouch for Nuendo V2 - Aida Sound
Yes, and I have a Tango Smart console here, too. The company went out of business for several reasons, none of which were a lack of business.