Why not just install and use v6 then? I assume it would run just fine.
For me personally - if WL9 has any reminders of any old outdated interface elements - that will be it for me.
Whatâs it been - 10 years of users wondering when this app is actually going to get a decent interface going?
VP
I only started with WL with version 7 for Mac but I know a bit about the V6 features and canât imagine working with it. I see how some layouts and concepts might be more popular in WL6 but the lack of DDP, and excellent file tagging/metadata in WL 8.5 would be a deal breaker for me.
Aside from some regular crashes from 3rd party plugins, WL 8.5.30 is pretty solid for me here. I mostly use Pro Tools for play/capture and RX4 clean up though, and only rely on WaveLab for final album assembly, and final audio tweaks per song and then final limiting/dither etc.
I originally made a custom layout to mimic the Wavelab 6 montage layout (the same tabs from WL6 across the entire horizontal space - with no split tabs), but ended up not using it. You could probably customize in the Audio File workspace to get it more like Wavelab 6 as well. Just take some screenshots of Wavelab 6 and then start moving and deleting stuff in Wavelab 8. But I agree, It would be nice if there were such layout presets built into the next version.
What I do miss from Wavelab 6 is having floating montages and audio files all in the same space. Donât really like the separate workspaces. And the smaller more compact Master Section from Wavelab 6.
But I would think Wavelab 9 is probably what it is already if work has been going on a year. So just waiting to see.
I remember hating the WL7 GUI, everything was wrong 
Then I figured out how to reposition stuff, and suddenly it all made sense. 8 works even better, and I can zip around doing work. Granted, itâs a bit of a learning curve, it doesnât really function like other software packagesâthen again, anyone whoâs ever tried their hand on, say QuarkXpress (love it, btw), Adobe Premiere, hell, MSWord for that matter, will have to learn the guis. Not that WL is perfect, far from it, but it is, IMHO, eminently workable. 6 was simple and understandable, but I wouldnât want to go back.
r,
j,
I tried installing WL6 on Windows 7 over the weekend. All I get is âUnknown Texceptionâ when I try and run it. Anyone else had better luck??? This is a person who had a similar experience http://www.steinberg.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=23698 and never got an answer when they posted their question. I do have WL installed on my XP partition on my hard drive so I can run it using Windows XP.
One thing I have noticed over the years that you and I have been on this forum is that you keep asking for a more modern GUI interface. Can you site some examples of what you would like to see and some programs that currently have a more âdecentâ interface. I would really like to know. Thanks.
How about every other program that I use
Outstanding examples of very good UIs can be found in Studio One (v3), the latest Nuendo/Cubase and especially iZoTope RX4 Advanced - which for me is closer to home for an âeditingâ environment to stay akin to what Wavelab does.
WLâs UI is sadly rooted in the distant Windows 95 past and even v7 and v8 have done nothing to bring it into a modern world. v7 for me was a disaster with itâs âworkspacesâ and every piece of the UI suddenly changing anytime you clicked on anything.
Even today with v8.5 - I am so concerned with ruining my standard audio file editing workflow - that I never click on anything outside my single workspace - like forever. I am certain I missing out on a bunch of cool stuff - but this crazy design is about as annoying as I have ever seen.
An EDITOR - should be for editing. Like Photoshop. When you are working on a file (or a group of files) and click on a tool or button - I am never suddenly âtaken awayâ to some foreign land with no indicator on how to return.
WL9 really needs to get current (like 2015 current) and give us a return to ease of displaying itâs two keys environments - EDIT (Audio File Editor) and MIX (âMontageâ - still a totally lame name).
I have never ever understood Montage and now do any of that type of assembly work in Studio Oneâs Project environment - which makes a laughing stock out of the WL Montage.
I still do like Wavelabâs editing ability - but it too is going to be usurped by other better tools if V9 does not deliver.
VP
I agree with this⌠I donât like having two separate workspaces either. I miss this from earlier versions of Wavelab.
Also, I found setting up and positioning meters much much easier in earlier versions⌠I would just put them where I want them - anywhere on the screen, and they would always stay there. Now? It is not so simple⌠They are either in windows, or they are floating, and they sometimes donât seem to open where I left them⌠They have sidebars or headers and take up more screen space. I miss the simplicity of this from earlier version of Wavelab.
Did you install the latest version 6.1.1? And latest elicenser software. No problem here on Win 7 64.
http://www.steinberg.net/index.php?id=951&L=1
http://www.elicenser.net/en/home.html
Thomas, I do have a function WL6 on my Windows 7 PC, though I havenât touched it in a great while, and I âinstalledâ it a long time ago.
If I remember correctly, the way I got it functioning was by taking a complete copy of the installed version of WL6 from another (at that time Windows XP) computer, and pasting it in the appropriate place on the W7 PC. BTW, I didnât invent the trick, I got it somehow from this forum.
I would not want to be without the DDP and metadata features either. WL8 has many new and powerful features which are awesome and earn PG the âDAW Cordon Bleuâ award! None of us WL veterans are complaining about these features.
It is the UI that is troubling us. I can report that after a year with WL8, nobody in our two studios has acclimated to the Workspace UI model. Frankly, everybody FCKNG HATES IT!!
I will add to the voices here that a WL6(ish) UI mode would be welcome.
I am a HUGE v6 fan.
I am enjoying the best of both worlds now.
I have v6 and v8 installed. I use v6 for tracking (record to montage track, overdubs) - have been for years and havenât had the time or energy to test out the same procedure on v8 yet (v8 didnât have record to montage feature for a while). V6 is so easy and familiar that I just keep going back to it for critical montage overdub/ recording. I use v8 for all other production, assembly and conversions. Both work fantastic on my Win 7 64bit machine. Granted v8 took some getting used to, but itâs HIGHLY configurable and Iâm sure I will be moving my tracking sessions to v8 as soon I have a free moment.
You do have to spend some time with v8, but you can definitely make it look âfamiliarâ and you may enjoy some of the config options. It took me a year to sit down and configure it to my liking - very little down time in my world.
Itâs worth the time though.
E
I, too, love WL8.
Personally, I customized the UI so it had the feel of 6 but with âmoreâ.
The idea of the separate screens with the simple F5/ribbon button to switch. This is logical and appealing to me personally ⌠but I started with PT so that probably accounts for that.
So I hear that WL 9 is in the Beta Test mode. I also heard that it may âsolveâ a lot of the problems with WL 8. I certainly hope so. I assume this means it will be out in the first or second quarter of 2016???
FWIW
Iâm pretty psyched for the new version of Wavelab. Any fixes are always welcome, but just some of the new feature ideas that have been tossed around here in the forum - some of those are very exciting! Looking forward to the upcoming release!
-Todd
Whilst I remain 100% skeptic (unfortunately) that the new release will again be rooted in the past (UI) - it is always fun to dream that it might actually get a completely new, logical, work friendly 2015-16 concept.
VP
Hmmmm ⌠I did a trial with Studio One to see what it was like. I canât say that the UI there had much appeal to me.
Pro Tools and Reaper look and feel better than that (to me anyway).
And therein lies the issue: we donât all find the same things, appealing.
Each to their own. But itâs not Studio One that is the issue here.
Itâs Wavelab and itâs UI being stuck in the 90âs.
VP
I said it before and Iâll say it again; I couldnât care less how it looks. As long as the functionality is there - and with Wavelab, the functionality is still better than many others.
I have no issue with the functions (when they work). But the workflow has killed me in the last two releases (v7/8)
This jarring âworkspaceâ vibe where you click on something and the entire screen disappears (or changes) has got to go.
It has gotten so bad for me that within v8 - I have just two âworkspacesâ now (after weeks of trial and error) that I am terrified to touch - for fear of ruining them and sending myself off onto another weird spiral trapped in WL
Clearly I do not âgetâ this part of the program or understand how anyone could use it in day to day operations.
VP
I canât fathom using Wavelab or even Cubase with one monitor. Iâm using 4 21-inch monitors side by side and canât help but think both applications sort of require this for any fast workflow use.
I too am excited about version 9. AutomationâŚfinally!
