I’m unsubbing from this thread because it’s getting a bit loopy loo. However, before I follow Elvis out of the building…
I have two ears, and I hear in stereo, not mono. When sounds have reverb, I can judge how far away they are.
I have two eyes, and I see in stereo. When objects have shadows, I can judge how far away they are.
I know, shamefully simplistic.
But this is why flat GUIs/UIs/UXs, etc, are unnatural. Our eyes need shadows, they need depth, even if it’s just virtual. Can you imagine Van Gogh painting anything without depth?
See you in the next topic.
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Hard to understand how mind blowing Asteroids and Pong and the like were.
Now I’m gone…
If you’re working with touch screen on a dark stage full of light glare, that’s EXACTLY what you want! It needs to stand out no matter the lighting situation, and have gaudy touch controls. I dare say even considering dropping the knob style encoders and doing something more strippy/linear.
Looks garbage, like a toy, for children or people who spend too much time lusting after visuals and not playing instruments and editing audio.
On a dark stage it needs to be visible from many feet away, and it also needs to stand out when the performer is facing all kinds of wicked lighting throwing glare everywhere. With a touch screen it has to be gaudy so fat fingers can catch the elements and move them around on the screen, yet have some degree of ‘precision’ in the end setting.
I’m in the group who simply likes to get things done. If I have an issue I try for a work-around. If it’s a bad issue I look at competitors. The grass isn’t always greener on the other side.
You have to work with what you have, and make the best of it. That’s the way it’s always been from the start. There will never be any DAW nirvana.
Shahe doesn’t mind his tool very much, and its a bit old.
And he is pretty good and fast with his tool.
As Nike says…Just Do It!
(or sit in forums talking about doing it and following Reddit believing it’s the most “popular.”) 
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Why this room is 3D? It’s distracting and unprofessional! 
Same with the lighting: it’s creating shadows and depth. Should be forbidden! 
No, they’re not. That claim is completely out of touch with reality. Millions of people, all over the world, “make” music. Most of them aren’t on Reddit, and many of them are actual musicians–not just knob-turners, loop-arrangers, and sample-snatchers.
“Music makers” sounds like a euphemism for DJs–and they’re not musicians either.
Just like vaping? A DAW isn’t a fashion accessory or a lifestyle choice. It’s a tool.
Maybe it’s like that on Reddit–I wouldn’t know–but Reddit isn’t a reflection of the real world.
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Afrobeat is from the 1960s.
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Trap originated in the 1990s.
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Synthwave is an interpretation (imitation) of synth music from the 1970s/80s.
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Darkwave is from the 70s/80s.
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K-Pop began in the early 1990s.
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Phonk is rooted in 1990s Memphis rap.
None of those are “new.” No offense–but your understanding of music history is limited.
Your comments suggest that you have little knowledge of music, music theory, or how modern genres have developed. All music is connected to the past. Tools don’t have genres.
Cubase is a Digital Audio Workstation–any professional DAW can be used to record, mix, and produce any genre. If someone can only perform their “music” with a DAW–they’re an entertainer at best, not a musician.
Brand strength and engineering capability are entirely different things. You might as well argue that Ableton is superior because it has a better logo.
What you call “contemporary genres” are really just contemporary production methods used by non-musicians.
Cubase is preferred by engineers and musicians who actually record real performances, because it’s designed for precision editing, mixing, scoring, and audio production. It replaces an analog studio workflow, not a DJ booth.
Ableton is primarily a loop-based performance tool. If that’s what I needed, I’d be using it, because that’s exactly what it’s designed for. Since I need a DAW that’s built for full-scale audio production, I use Cubase.
It’s a stronger brand to user who rely on non-human “performers” to play back loops and trigger clips. Cubase is a stronger tool for people who actually create music from scratch by recording, engineering, mixing, and producing music performed by humans.
If Steinberg were to shift their focus towards targeting people who choose tools based on vibes, stereotypes, and Reddit, they would no longer be targeting professionals.
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This not really true. Ableton is much better musical instrument than Cubase. As a “real musician” (keyboardist and guitarist), I choose Ableton instead of Cubase without thinking twice. Ableton Push 3 is not only a loop launcher, but also a very expressive musical instrument, very natural to play if you are a guitarist. However, Cubase is generally better for traditional composing workflows and infinitely better for mixing.
Look Ma, no GUI!
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Hey! This is a family show!
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Mixing aside, I often look at his work as inspiration. What he achieves with the tools he has, is remarkable.
I don’t know him, but doubt he worries too much about UI & GUI. Its about priorities I think.
Now, please excuse me while I examine C14 vs. C15 and the other Cs to see what visual improvements that obviously we all need. After that I’m going to spend the rest of the morning looking for the perfect kick drum from my folder of 2,000 kicks, then I’ll use the rest of the afternoon to slightly adjust it as it’s not actually perfect. 
I got Waves Torque, 20 EQs, and 40 compressors, so I think I’m set.
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When I am referring to genres I am talking from the point of view of the UK mainstream and US Billboard, western popular music.
In the 90s you had Rnb, New Jack swing, Indie Rock ,Grunge, Nu Metal, Boom Bap New York hip-hop, Pre EDM House, Trance, Speed Garage, Uk Drum n Bass, Berlin Techno, as dominant genres in mainstream western popular culture.
Today if you ask most under 30s in London, what they listen to, the majority of what’s being consumed is Trap/Drill, Modern Afrobeat, Afrocentric House from South Africa, modern metal and modern country music.
K-Pop, Darkwave have also been infiltrating mainstream culture.
Origin is different from when it becomes a standard in mainstream culture and replaces something.
In the 90s Grunge rock was a standard, it isnt no more, its a nostalgic genre that people listen to but it has no cultural placement or power amongst modern youth.
London and its ever growing asian and african communities have taken over what is popular, and most asian kids and african kids i know (because i work with a lot in london) listen to Modern Afrobeat and Trap/Drill, many hate hip-hop and hate rock music, and find House old mans music, like disco for people from the 80s.
Artists like Burna Boy are revered amongst street youth, not DJ,s and Rock stars.
Vst companies are starting to get on board, slowly, XLN’s latest drum machine packs include Kpop patterns, Reggeaton, Afrobeat and modern Trap.
So what? We all should make kpop and Drill now? Because kids are listening to it? What kind of twisted logic it is?
Besides that, it looks like some folks here are forgetting that Cubase is laso used to do sound design (for games, film, media), film music and media and post-production. Fun fact: most of those have nothing to do with what kids are listening to “these days”.
Since the last few years I wasn’t requested to do anything related to what teenagers are listening to and I’m using Cubase daily.
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I think they’re referring to the modern genre Afrobeats that emerged in the late 2000’s, not the Afrobeat/Afrofunk pioneered by Fela Kuti.
I’m pretty sure Pro Tools is dominating that slice of the market.
ProTools doesn’t seem to have as big of a market share in Europe as Cubase does though.
I grew up with pop, rock ‘n’ roll, rhythm ‘n’ blues, blues, jazz, and classical. One knew where one was, in them thar days.
Boom Bap sounds like a burger with too much chilli sauce..
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@Googly_Shakespeare : “Boom Bap sounds like a burger with too much chilli sauce…”
These are the winds of change
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Whew!
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I once read that upon hearing rock n roll, Frank Sinatra said
‘Brutal, ugly, degenerate noise’ made by cretinous goons’.
People forget, that what is deemed classic today, stood against beethoven and sinatra, sounds like garbage.
My point is, music from the ealy DAW era, which today seems to be revered House, Techno, Boom bap, was at the time laughed at by rockers in the 1980s for being computer garbage.
The idea you would run audio into a giant calculator was a joke, real musicians played through volts and head on into tape.
The older generation always have dismissed what is current, and right now modern afrobeat is at the center.