Really? The examples were extremes and foundational…the current top playlist tells me there is still more hardq than anything else, EDM is mostly hardq (it would seem as an evolution of eg Robots)
My current fav playlist is prob Hans Zimmer ‘Dune’, Skald, Sona Jobarteh, Billie Eilish, Faun etc.
The orchestration is great (HZ)…midi or otherwise but its only a support to the instrument themes and sounds. Hans is a real inspiration…thinking about doing the masterclass
Your missing my point…its not the “realness” of a sound that we are capturing; its the art/precious moment that cant be undone. Something gets lost using a mouse to edit into perfection rather than capturing the beauty of that moment/frailties and it doesnt mean you cant create a great product using midi; but that disconnect always lacks something…human resolution is an interesting thing.
If you understood…Im sure you wouldn’t say that. Those that do, agree…and many thanks to them for the excellent input and pms.
With respect: What is “it” used for then? It is competent for parts of the task. I really don’t think you get it…it doesn’t and cant do the basics of multi stage dyn management that it could previously… else I wouldn’t have started the thread…I recommend you look at a YT by Dan Worrall on upward compression and the fabfilter…and that is the actual closest solution for me so far. Simply buy professional tools and manage the future based on the feedback to this post; why I dont use stock plugins…and its clear now.
Um yeah…using a lot of mouse work and editing and thats ok and appropriate for some stuff. How much time do we spend wading through the myriad options instead of just doing the art? Ive been so guilty of it…hence me trying to alert you…days turn into months into years into decades if you stay long enough
Midi is a great tool…esp for realtime control as its primary strength
I (do actually) use various libraries as realtime instruments with complex coding to achieve realtime expression and capture the output as audio ie no midi
eg
There is a great hand pan library by sonic coutoure. I listened to the best examples I could find…and the sound was great but the feel was very lacking. (I have played real hang drum badly when the first came out…amazing instrument).
I use a hpd20 as a controller for various stuff and the great thing is that is one of the only hand perc instruments that has positional data on pads ie not just dynamics.
So I coded kontakt KSP to use that along with even knuckle mutes etc…when put together you can clearly see the value of realtime midi and when its played by anyone with real world skill (even just a little eg me) it sounds AND feels right. Its super therapeutic to play…but still a long way from the real one.
Here is a quick impro if you are interested…funnily enough the midi timing was glitching after playing a lot of notes but cant be bothered rebooting…rarely gets turned off.
demo
I just played a couple of minutes ago…
RE: Upward compression which in old MB…for anyone interested,
here
is a location recording I did last week with 1 stereo mic and a touch of the old upward compression, a touch of eq and some fader riding (its not mic hiss at the front…it an old church and it was windy outside); all about the moment. Its K-20 target levels although a bit hotter but the peaks weren’t touched which is what that compression does…if you have never had to use it, I guess it wouldn’t be missed or mourned over lol
One day AI will do it all for us…in the meantime lets not forget the human and spiritual connection of music which is why eg minimalism is so attractive; less is more…but this is vulnerable as each element is more focused and exposing.
Ill leave it at that…no more novels…I should get to work and do hope you get what I’m actually saying (or I have been effectively been able to communicate it).
Id love to hear what you do…maybe put a link up here or pm so we can hear what you get up to; that would be cool?
