Why is the correct paper size not displayed in print mode? I’ve set the paper size to 27 x 34 cm, but a different format is displayed in print mode. That’s very much confusing. I’d like to change that. How?
It can be done, but you need to define the paper size.
- In Print mode
- Press page setup (lower left corner)
- Select Paper size
- Select Manage custom sizez
- Create you custom size
The long and short of it that the print dialog by default recognizes the paper sizes the printer driver already knows about. Using a “non-standard” size (as viewed by the operating system that is) needs you to make the printer be aware of it.
In contrast, the layout options in “earlier” settings referr to how you want Dorico to layout things on an imaginative paper. This whole process allows you to print a score or part on the paper sizes available on your printer.
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Thank you, but my “page setup” (Seite einrichten…) doesn’t react…
To avoid misunderstandings: I don’t want to print, I want to create a PDF.
Dorico 6.1.10.6078, macOS monterey 12.7.6
For some reason the correct page size is not always shown in Print mode when exporting as graphics (PDF). You also can’t change the page size in the right panel in Print mode when exporting as graphics. The size you’ve set in Layout options will be used. The UI is a bit confusing here.
See this topic for a discussion earlier this year:
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Thanks for the information.
It’s reassuring to know that the graphic export works. It’s also a great feature that you can scroll through the pages in a preview. However, it’s a real shame that the custom paper size isn’t displayed here. I find it hard to imagine that this should be such a big problem for the developers.
To clarify, are you talking here about graphic export or printing to a printer?
I’m talking about this view in print mode:
When scrolling through the pages, I can’t see the paper size I specified. Am I doing something wrong? Is it possible to fix it?
Dorico always lays out your page according to the settings in Layout Options > Page Setup.
When you are printing to a printer, you can specify a different page size, and then Dorico will scale the virtual page to fit on the physical paper size. But when you are printing to PDF, this kind of adjustment doesn’t make sense, and so Dorico doesn’t let you change the paper size. (If you want to print the PDF on a different size paper, that adjustment is handled in your PDF printing software.)
So if Layout Options is set to US Letter, for example, Dorico will lay the page out with those dimensions. If I want to print that to larger paper, like Tabloid, I can change the print page size in Print mode, and Dorico will scale the Letter-sized page to fit on Tabloid paper. But if I’m exporting a PDF, the PDF will always be Letter-sized. Then when I open the PDF in Acrobat, I can tell Acrobat that I want to print it on Tabloid paper, and Acrobat will handle the scaling.
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I’m sure everything you’re writing is correct, I just wish that when Dorico offers a preview in print mode, it would also be shown in the page size I’ve defined.
I think there may still be some clarity missing here.
In Graphics mode, Dorico will show the print preview in the page size you have defined in Layout Options.
In Printer mode, Dorico won’t use a paper size that isn’t defined for your printer – outside of Dorico – because Dorico has to be able to print on the paper you’ve selected. So it will scale your Layout Options page size to the page size you choose for the printer. It’s basically saying, “Here’s what your custom page size will look like when I print it on the paper which your printer has.”
If you want to see your layout on the custom page size you defined in Layout Options, you can just view it in Engrave mode. Or you can view it in Print, with Graphics as the destination.
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This is my Paper Size in the layout Options:
This is what I see in Print Options - graphics mode:
Still wrong paper size. What am I doing wrong?
What’s wrong about the size? The aspect ratio looks like it’s about 27cmx34cm.
No. It is “Letter” or something similar.
It looks too tall for letter.
You can always export the PDF and then open it up and check the size, and verify that it looks like the Dorico preview. Or if you’d like to upload the Dorico project here, I can take a look at it.
That’s very kind of you. I prefer to send you the project via email, if you don’t mind.
Sure, you can PM me.
Daniel and I continued this via PM. When I opened his file, everything looked as expected, but he posted screenshots showing that Print/Graphics was not displaying correctly for him; it looked like the page size defined in Layout Options was being scaled to fit on some other page size, instead of displaying exactly as it does in Engrave.
I noticed from his screenshots that he didn’t actually have any printers installed (because he doesn’t own a printer). On a hunch, I suggested that he install some virtual PDF printer, just so that something shows up in the printer dropdown. When he did that, and restarted Dorico, Graphics preview displayed correctly for him.
It seems to me that this might be a bug – that Graphics preview requires at least one printer to be installed in order to calculate its display correctly.
cc: @dspreadbury
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Nice catch!
Indeed.
Jesper
For those who are as unknowing and unexperienced with this as I am, the link to the virtual printer I received from asherber might be helpful:
PDF Printer Lite App - App Store (it’s for free 
)
The idea that something like “virtual printers” exists was completely new to me…
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