Thank you for not trying to take this out of context. You put it down correctly and understood the concept of where I was going with this.
Thank you for simplifying this for me 
This would be PERFECT!
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@SoundAttribution
@TimoWildenhain
Agree absolutely with your posts on this. As I said on my post earlier I put a request in to Steinerg support last saturday asking for an extension to Cubase 14 trial until Nuendo 14 is released. No response yet. Iâm a bit disappointed. If I knew how to email @TimoWildenhain I would certainly do so. Not all areas of the Steinberg empire are so unresponsive - the Dorico forum is excellent and very well moderated by members of that excellent team. By comparison the Nuendo one seems sluggish on the part of Steinberg staff and on this particular issue i.e. delay in release of Nuendo updates the moderators should be listening very carefully. Those of us who crossgraded from Cubase to Nuendo are likely to have been longtime supporters of Steinberg products and the Nuendo upgrades as previously noted are twice the cost of Cubase upgrades. So Steinberg should be listening carefully to a group of pretty loyal customers in my humble opinion.
Best to all.
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Hello,
Thank you for your comment. I/we at Steinberg actually value your, say âimpatienceâ, as it really shows that you care about our products. So I completly understand that people are waiting for N14 to be released. Iâm sorry that I might have been a bit slow answering this question, which doesnât actually mean I donât care; it seems we talk via more channels with our users than we are currently able to maintain.
That said, Iâve been discussing the Cubase/Nuendo release timing already a few times here in the forums, but Iâm happy to shed some light on this for those who are new to the Nuendo platform.
First, there is not âintentionalâ delay of the Nuendo release. Itâs simply not ready for release, since Cubase and Nuendo share some of the same team members in the development department. Like Nuendo 13, Nuendo 14 will receive some features based on AI, which is a significant development task.
Both Cubase and Nuendo are developed on what is called the âSequencer branchâ, in this case, branch #14. This initial launch and beta testing with some more Sequencer-general and music features is for Cubase, on top of which we add the Nuendo-specific functions. This allows the Sequencer basis to be tested properly before adding Nuendo functions.
Which leads me to the second reason. Nuendo is used in tens of thousands, almost exclusively, professional environments, and has to be a 24/7 workhorse (at least, as much as possible), with stability being the #1 priority, in conjunction with new features. In the past there have been release situations in which we released Cubase and Nuendo developments in close succession. This was the case with C13 and N13 (to be correct, this release scenario was a result of a severe Online-Shop outtage in October 2023).
Both products were based on the initial release branch, which was 13.0.0.
In the first couple of release days, thousands of Nuendo users installed this version and, due to the nature of the kind of work they do (âpro scenarioâ), we have seen people rolling back to N12 for their daily work, as naturally, the first bug-fix updates were yet to come. As a result, we were criticized for releasing Nuendo too quickly after Cubase. Considering this for the N14 development, we went for a combination of âadded development time + stabilityâ. Nuendo 14 will be released on the basis of the 2nd bugfix version of Sequencer Branch 14.
We could certainly think of an extension for the Cubase trial exclusively for Nuendo users, but thatâs not something that can be done overnight, itâs more than changing the duration of the trial. The trial provision workflow service needs to be changed for this. So that could be something to consider for generation 15.
Iâm pretty aware of the that there is no way for us doing the right thing here. I nevertheless try to be very honest and open with this. That said, more information on the launch of N14 will come within the next 14 days. It isnât too far away anymore.
Thanks for reading and your continuous support,
Timo
P.S. Speaking of communication channels, Iâm also sharing information on Nuendo regularly on my Facebook Channel (e.g. tradeshows, news, connect to Nuendo people, sales promotions etc.), so please feel invited to connect there as well.
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Personally, I think the âwait longer and get it as bug free as practicalâ approach is a good one. It isnât like a new version of Cubase (or Nuendo) stops the old one from working. So I donât see it as a big deal having to wait longer.
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This is my priority too, I prefer to wait and have a version that is as stable as possible.
Nuendo is not a game, is a tool . I didnât like what happened with the need of hot fixes 40 to 41 and 50 to 51.
Iâd rather be a month late than two updates in one month.
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@TimoWildenhain
Thanks very much for the explanation anyway. Knowing the reasons for the delay and the pressure on Steinberg teams is certainly helpful - although devising a way of providing a bridging trial from cubase release to nuendo release would be good. Your announcement of further details on Nuendo 14 is tantalising although from what I remember from the N12 launch was that the actual release came 2 or 3 weeks after the launch demo and announcement - (at least enough time for me to shake the money out of my Nuendo piggy bank I suppose 
).
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Same here,
stability is the #1 issue. Thatâs why i never change of versions in the middle of a project. Since I work on cartoon TV shows mostly Iâm often lagging a version behind, or switching between 2 versions for different projects (I have all versions from 10 to 13 installed).
And as much as Iâd like to take advantage of new toys, making sure that my work is consistent and bug free for my client is the most important.
But hey, different people, different approach. Nuendo is a great tool, so keep it great.
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Take all the time you need, in my opinion! I look forward to Nuendo 14, especially now that the integration with Softubeâs Console 1 Mk III devices supports Direct DAW control for the software. This is a huge step!
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Maybe theyâll surprise us with all the improvements, with a jump to version 15 like what happened from version 8 to 10
YES!!! Thank you, I appreciate this stability-oriented approach. Nuendo 13 came out too early IMO, sounds like Nuendo 14 will be âjust rightâ then.
YES! Thank you for listening on this issue. There is no downside to this idea â other than the effort of implementing the trial provision workflow⌠but I think it will be worth it, not only to support the kind of Nuendo users in this thread who want to use the ânewerâ Sequencer Branch while they are waiting for the next Nuendo release, but it will also encourage more people on the edge of upgrading from Cubase to Nuendo to finally make the upgrade, since theyâll have more confidence that they can still access ânewâ features each release cycle.
It is a win-win! Please do implement for Cubase 15/Nuendo 15!
YES!!! This is always appreciated! Please continue this!
Cheers! And congrats on the impending Nuendo 14 release! Looking forward to it!
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With all due respect (really), this is the part that confuses me. Iâll continue to be respectful, but also âdirect.â Apologies if it comes across any other way. This isnât just a reply to you, of course - itâs to the community in general.
Why, exactly, are you disappointed? Better asked, what is your core justification for believing youâre âentitledâ to this in the first place? Theyâre different products. You got a trial for one of them for free. If your âneedâ for the other product you donât own is such that youâll openly post your âdisappointmentâ that someone hasnât gone out of the their way to continue giving you something for free, then buy the product. I see plenty of âI deserveâ this, and âIâm entitled toâ that, but no one has actually articulated why they think that. Terms are clearly spelled out in licensing agreements and product descriptions. So honestly, while I canât speak for anyone else, when I see these posts I canât help but roll my eyes. Itâs just a bit much. And if Iâm doing that, thereâs probably a good chance the decision makers are doing that. But hey, Iâm just a user.
Maybe if more time were spent actually describing the use-case, impact, and basis for the expectation, something more would be done. This may be a bit harsh, but while @TimoWildenhain was spending time composing the same words heâs already posted before, what he wasnât doing was working on Nuendo 14âs release. Right?
The upgrade for Cubase Pro is $99. I paid that for the upgrade to C13P, and I paid that for the upgrade to C14P. I also paid for the cross-grade to N13. Iâll have to pay for the upgrade to N14, as expected. When C15P comes out, Iâll most likely pay the $99 for that. I donât know for sure, but I probably will - and Iâll be able to, because Iâll PLAN for it, just I do for all requirements Iâve defined for myself.
You can say âSteinberg should be listening carefully to a group of pretty loyal customers,â and I agree with that. But you also may want to consider what âloyalâ means. So far, the only argument Iâve seen is âI bought that one thing a while back, and I deserve free use of a different product because of that.â To which I say, âNo sir, you donât.â The definition of a âloyal customerâ is one who buys, and keeps buying, the products, right? If someone has stopped buying the product, then the vendor has already lost the revenue.
The âaskâ here is for SB to actually enable the loss of future revenue in perpetuity by a group that has already indicated they are not buying the product in the first place. Therefore, the real-world economic result could only be to extend that loss to customers like me who, if they enable the âfeature,â may have no reason to continue purchasing the other product. Right? I think so. So if youâre going to ask them to work against their own immediate best interests, then I think like-minded folks as you should to do a bit more than just say âyou should do this because I just donât feel like paying for something.â
But again, Iâm just a guy buying stuff.
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This was my main point sir and not the speed of when Nuendo is released. Thank you for understanding the main issue here.
Kind regards! 
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Thanks to all who supported the request for a Cubase extension for Nuendo. A special thanks to those who took the time to understand and engage with what was being asked. While we faced some pushback from others, I truly appreciate those who kept the conversation constructive. Ultimately, those who were initially against the idea will also benefit from this if implemented, and thatâs something Iâm grateful for as well. We can now move forward thanks to the healthy discussions, and Iâm excited for whatâs ahead. 
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Good to know that youâre happy that Timo heard the request and that, for your part, if Steinberg does not extend, you wonât take it personally.
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Thanks for sharing your thoughts. I donât take it personally because Iâve always believed itâs important to stay open to different outcomes and keep things professional. I wonât apologize for having a positive attitude, and I canât help how others and you feel about it. My focus remains on moving forward so Iâm done and like i said. Will move forward! Cheer up and I hope you will move forward too!
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Thank you Timo, that would be a great news if your team is able to do it for the generation 15 !!!
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Agreed, in a marketing point of view Steinberg for sure wonât âwasteâ his time.
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+1 on adding this for Generation 15!
Simple solution - how about a dual Cubendo license - say a $99 premium on top of the Nuendo license - giving full access to Cubase. Thos who already hold Nuendo licenses pay $99 to add, and then catch-up updates for Cubase between versions are 49 bucks. Trial periods not needed, and if the Cubase version does the particular job before the features arrive with Nuendo then it can stay in that version. Saves being uncertain about starting a project with new features. Otherwise port the project over to Nuendo when the feature release catches up. Nuendo upgrade priced as normal. Steinberg wins $99 and an extra $49 when Cubase is ahead of Nuendo.
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This is exactly what I was thinking too. I even posted the name âCubendoâ in a discussion about it somewhere (hard to keep track). This also serves the business model, and could be the BU justification for dev hours to support the feature. In my experience, justifying development time to enable free-for-longer type features for something already given away can be a tough sell. This would address that nicely.
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