Yamaha Steinberg FireWire driver Win 11 (to connect my Motif XF)

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Hi all, maybe this is the wrong forum, but here’s my problem:

My new machine is based on an ASUSPRIME Z890-P Motherboard. I have installed a PCIe Firewirecard that worked perfectly with the Yamahy Steinberg FireWire Driver under Win 10.

When I install the Driver on the new machine and doubleclick the Icon that represents it, an error message appears: Failed to open control panel.

In the device manager there is a single entry (not more than one, which I would have expected!) yamaha firewire bus - with an exclamation point. The error text here points to the Firewire-Device.

The entry for the IE1394 Host controller is fine, the microsoft driver is installed an no error indicated.

Does anybody have an idea what could be the problem?

Should I get a different firewire-card? I need one to connect my Motif XF!

Thank you all in advance!

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hi, i think you can use the compatibility mode, and use, for example, Win7. you need to uninstall the actual version of the driver.

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Hi you,

thank you for the hint - could you explain where I have to set the compatibility mode?

Thx, Ernst

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yes, right click on the installer and look for compatibility mode.

or right clic on the installer, properties, compatibility.

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I ll give it a try immediately!

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Thank you, I tried, but the problem persists. Unfortunately

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oh….sorry. im not using FW these days, bit i still having my old Digidesign 002R

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I appricate your attempt to help!

Thx! :slight_smile:

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another user posted this:

I’m using a PE-107 PCI-e FireWire 800 card, with Windows 11, a Yamaha N8, with last available set of drivers, etc. All works successfully.

Do yo need the yamaha FW driver? in legacy mode?

M

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Thank you, I tried with exactly the driver you pointed me to.

I will check the PE-107

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I think with win11 the combo FW400/800 cards are the ones that work.

M

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Do you happen to know the thread you where the other user shared his positive experiance?

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I had a 3-port FW800 PCIe card with the LSI FW643 chip and it worked perfectly in Windows 10 with my MOTU 828mkII. Despite all the history of TI chips being better than LSI, this one worked fine for me for years and did not need the legacy drivers. It may or may not work in Windows 11. I won’t be testing it as I no longer need it.

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Try the Texas Instruments firewire driver, the default windows one is @*%£.

Go to control panel, click update driver for the 1394 controller. click ‘browse my computer for drivers’, then ‘Let me pick from a list…..’ and select the Texas Instruments driver.

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Interresting approach - unfortunately there is no Texas Instruments driver offered when I do what you advise. So two questions: How do I get the TI driver and second - can it work with my PCIe Firewire card that is based on a VIA chip?

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Go in to your BIOs and disable secure boot. The driver (Yamaha FW not 1394) isn’t signed properly for Windows 11 since some few years.

Windows MIDI 2.0 support seems to have broken Cubase remote DAW control from the Motif XF but I’m just starting to understand how this world should work.

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Hi you, sound iterresing. My bios under secure boot offers to switch from UEFI to “other OS”, is that what I have to chose?

When I am doing that, the boot stops and asks for my bitlocker key. Is that normal?

Could it be anyways, that bitlocker is involved in some issues with installations?

Thank you for your help!

Ernst

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Hi, I made some progress yesterday: I disabled Kernel Protection Mode in Win 11 and now the installation PARTLY works: The Yamaha Steinberg FW Bus driver is installed correctly, no yellow warning signs.

The control panel of the driver can be opened. Connecting the XF, though, does not work and:

What still DOES NOT WORK is to install the other pieces of the driver like shown here in the installation guide (Only the FW Bus Driver is installed on my system!)

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I have to add something: THe Firewire Driver (the IE1394) is working correctly. How do I know that? I have a Presonus Firestation connected via it and it works with the Universal Control Software. So it definitely is the Yamaha Steinberg Driver that fails during installation and causes missing items as described above.

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Hi all,

I tried now with a different Firewire Card with a TI chip. So now the results are the same with the VIA chip and the TI chip and it looks as follows:

The Firewirecard is obviously working - it allows to connect my Firepod with UniversalControl, just as I had it installed on my previous Win10 Machine. It works perfectly here on the new Win 11 PC (spcs in first of my posts).

The Intaller for the Yamaha Firewire Driver passes seemlingly correct, but somehow different than it looked on the Win10 machine, namely that it never requests a reboot.

After the installation only the Yamaha Steinber FW Bus is installed correctly, but the Yamaha Driver for the Firewire-Board in the MOtif XF, The WDM AUdio and th WDM MIDI drivers are NOT being installed. As a result, even when connected, the control panel of the driver does not show any connected devices - just as if the XF was not there.

I am somewhat desperate - what could be the reason? Any ideas?

Btw.: I disabled kernel protection in the windows security settings, which made installing the Firewire Bus Driver work.