I battled a while ago with Dorico to learn some basics and now i do have a simple piano project of 3 staves in 4/4
There should be a flows panel in the Help of Dorico ?
This help of dorico without a picture is not handy and tricky because there is a small triangle at the bottom what first must be opened in order to show the flow panel
When it will be clear by the developers of Dorico that starting with Dorico is a userunfriendly affair ?
You have to be in setup mode (Ctrl/Cmd 1); You can open(and closeâŚ) the bottom panel by pressing Ctrl/Cmd 8. You can add a flow by clicking the plus icon, or by shift F.
Dan Kreider has made a âBeginnerâs Guide to Doricoâ, which is a great help for beginners.
Good Luck !
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I do need only a piano layout with one player then and it has 3 staves (4/4 time ) of each of 4 bar (measures) length
So the answer for this is easy to get ?
If you want to set fixed casting off, so that every system in your piano layout has 4 bars, you can do that using these steps.
Iâm sorry you had difficulty finding the Flows panel - there are 3 ways you can hide/show it, one of which is clicking the little arrow at the bottom. (I will be adding a small inline screenshot of that arrow to the 2nd bullet point entry on that page in the near future.)
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I donât want to go to far with this layout setup options for now, because i get lost in it
Is there a easy way to made a piano layout for a number of staves in 4/4 time each 4 bar long ?
You can do it manually by inserting system breaks after every 4th bar, or once youâve input all the music you might find adjusting the note spacing settings does this automatically (although you did say youâd rather not get into layout options right now - theyâre very handy though!).
Got a 4 bar piano stave already and in the write mode changed the barline in a not ending
Now i must add 2 staves herunder ( definition system ?) by using a system brake probably in the setup mode
Yes, handy to know the layout options, but before you can use that you must made a big study of Doricoâs working.
Is there no also a piano template to get ?..no the piano template starts also with one bar
I think i spend now almost 1 1/2 hour to try to setup a easy piano layout âŚ
Luckily i know now more about how to do the noteinput from earlier battling with Dorico program
If you mean you want 12 bars of music played from start to end, but displayed across 3 lines on the page, thatâs â3 systemsâ. If you want 4 bars of music played from start to end but with 3 simultaneous âmelodiesâ, those are â3 stavesâ. Funnily enough, this came up not so long ago so I added a definition of system to the glossary - only available in English at the moment but this will be translated very soon.
You donât need to change the barline at the end of the 4 bars if the music should continue - just add 8 more bars, then add the system breaks (if you have Dorico Pro, you do this in Engrave mode, as described in the steps I sent - here also in German).
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It becomes more clear nowâŚ
Need for now only a simple piano score.
In the search field for the word âsystemâ i did not get a answer ?
I am using Dorico Elements ( no engraving here ?)
The word âsystemâ gets used a lot in other places, so yes at the moment the glossary entry isnât on the first page of results - Iâll take a look at bumping that up.
Yes in Dorico Elements thereâs no Engrave mode, so you insert system breaks in Write mode instead.
I am Dutchmen , so the German help is no use for me.
It seems that there is no help focussed only for Dorico Elements users ?
This makes it all problematic âŚ
How to use Dorico Elements for making Piano scores now, could be tutorial serie what can be standing on its own.
Apologies, I saw âherunderâ and made an assumption! No we provide separate manuals for Pro, Elements, and SE - the link in my previous post was to the Elements version of the manual (you can see âdorico_elementsâ in the url)
Yes, i see the link, but it is for a German help version or not ?
(can translate to Dutch automatically, but not advisableâŚ)
Prefer the Englisch version then.
Seems that i am not capable of adding system breaks yet ( i do have now 12 bars ) .
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Just where i am looking for the English version⌠for getting the system breaks.
Lillie was thinking that i was from Germany , but that is a neighbour country
I am from Holland - Amsterdam
I start with 12 bars and select a note of item? for inserting a system break ?
The stave is empty for 12 bars: i select the last vertical bar (name?) divider of measure 4 two times and get 3 staves
- the original stave 1 named : Keyboard - 4 bars ( was first 12 bars )
- the second stave named: Kbd and is not lined up vertical the same as stave 1, but has the same bar length
- the third stave also named Kbd is also not lined up, and has not the same bar length too : much smaller
Now there is also in purple a sytem break message on both staves
Well donât have not yet the right layout âŚ
Yes, you can select barlines (theyâre a type of item - âitemâ just means âanything selectable in the musicâ), but select the barline at the end of bar 4. Purple signposts indicate where the system breaks exist. You can select and delete them, or just move them using the Alt-arrow keys in Write mode.
The second systemâs barlines are a bit offset compared to the first because by default, the first system shows âfullâ staff labels but the 2nd system onwards shows âshortâ, so the available width is larger on the 2nd system onwards. You can change this if you like.
The last system will be short because by default, Dorico doesnât justify the last system in flows to the full width of the page unless theyâre pretty full.
Hereâs a quick project that does what you need - you can have a play with it to see how it works.
piano_layout.dorico (356.5 KB)
Thanks Lillie
Got now the wanted layout (still only correcting the staff labels )
Should be helpful if for piano players there is a easy template
setup. ( a piano mode )
There is much you can do with Dorico , but is goes step by step
I will look too at your piano-layout !
When you first open Dorico, the hub appears. If you click on the Solo tab youâll find a Solo piano template. This wonât show instrument names by default.
Dorico does wear some of its differences on its sleeve, though: for instance, two of the big competitors start each project in 4/4 by default (whether that time signature is actually visible or not), whereas Dorico starts each project with no time signature. Without a time signature Dorico canât know where to put barlines, so it canât give you a nicely formatted page of 12 or 16 bars straight away.
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Dorico is really different in many ways (impression) i think then his competitors.
Well, if you are using Dorico for making piano scores
Therefore could be made a dedicated help section.
- Making a piano template score (4/4)
Its also a good start for further composing with Dorico