Ah, this actually demonstrates my point about legacy code. When you open the Key Editor (best to be specific on details) the S key does indeed stop soloing the Track (but it does solo the Editor). However the reason this occurs is not because the Key Editor is open, it is because the Key Ed currently has the focus. If you leave the Key Ed open but return focus to the Project Window by clicking on it you will find your S key still solos the Track.
So the problem isn’t simply a wayward Key Command, it is really a problem on how Cubase manages Window focus. If you look around you’ll discover that a large number of things that are annoying in Cubase turn out to be focus related. But the way Cubase deals with focus is baked pretty deep in the architecture and has been living there a long time. So it is not going to be trivial to fix, and perhaps not even possible without building from the ground up.
Steinberg seems not to confirm bugs. At least not until they are fixed. Most annoying is the race condition bug in the transport handler.
So effing fundamental for a DAW. Was introduced in 8.5 and still not fixed, and I dont expect it to be fixed in 10.5 either.
Not too excited, honestly. All past updates where mostly disappointing for me, very few exciting features for people that mainly work with midi. And basically all the features that I’ve been hoping and waiting for where part of the recent “Feature Request Poll”, meaning that none of them should be part of 10.5.
I have been using Cubase for 3 years. In that 3 years not one improvement has been made to MIDI or expression map workflow. 3 YEARS!!!, ZERO improvements for MIDI or Expression map workflow. Not even the much requested glue key command.
We’ll see on 12.11 what’s new in Cubase 10.5.
I’ve heard that the Grace Period for Cubase 10.5 has been running since October 15th.
Accordingly, Cubase 10.5 will probably appear on 12.11.
Do you get the free update to 10.5 for however long you want AFTER the update comes out if you have a lower version and upgrade to that version afterwards. If that makes sense ?
If you owned C10, and updated straight to C11 (i.e. bypassed C10.5) then yes you are licensed to use C10.5 with the C11 update - I think that’s what you’re asking?
Or are you asking if you activated C10 AFTER C10.5 is released would you get C10.5 for free? I believe that depends what license you are activating (Upgrade/Update/Full etc) from and which edition Cubase (Pro/Artist/LE etc.) As Steinberg have different prices depending on how many versions you’re jumping. I believe that if you have a full version to activate it will always be for the latest Cubase version regardless, not sure on previous version updates AFTER newer version release - i’d be surprised if you bought an update from C9.5 to C10 that you’d get C10.5 for free if you waited to activate until AFTER C10.5 is released though as that would be two updates.
If you done it within the grace period (Before C10.5) it should entitle you to C10.5? But again, i’m not even sure on that. Maybe be clearer what version and edition (I.e. Cubase 9.5 Pro?) you currently have and what kind of update or upgrade (They are different) you plan to purchase.
i’d be surprised if you bought an update from X to (X+1) that you’d get (X+2) for free if you waited to activate until AFTER (X+2) is released though as that would be two updates.
Surprisingly, this is exactly how it works, afaik. You always can get the latest version of Cubase. Some people buy updates on sale, don’t activate right away, but wait for the next but one release or more. If you are patient enough, you can skip versions practically for free. You just can’t use the same update again, that is, you can not buy three updates to (X+1) and apply them three times repeatedly to update the single license on your eLicenser to (X+2),(X+3),(X+4). You would need to buy another update each time.
(Disclaimer: Never tried this for myself, it is just how I understood the grace period/update thingy)
Yeah i realise the updates work like that if activated within the grace period, but does that still apply if you activate a C9.5 to C10 key (for example) AFTER the grace period/C10.5 comes out? That’s the part i’m not 100% sure on as you’ve never used the C9.5-C10 update to qualify within the grace period.
At that point, i can’t see how you’re any different than a new C9.5 → C10.5 buyer as you’ve missed the grace period which exists for people who’ve paid for a version only to have a new one shortly replace it. Unless that license you buy is to the current latest version regardless? In which case that makes sense.
Customers activating an older version of Cubase […] whereas a newer version is already available, receive from Steinberg once (!) a so-called free Grace Period update to activate the current version available to that time.
If you activate an older (or an update to) older version, when a newer version is already out, you’ll get the new version.
You have 10.0. You buy an update to 10.5 and don’t activate. Steinberg releases 11.0. A month later, you activate your 10.5. You will get 11.0
The “once(!)” in the Steinberg statement above I understand like I wrote before: They don’t mean “once per customer”, but once per license for a specific update. That is, you can’t buy several 10.5 updates in advance and then use these repeatedly to update the same license again and again.
Ah cool, thanks for confirming that, hopefully it answers Triton’s request then. I believe they’re currently steering Jupiter our way and laughing like a mad person!
So what’s key is the version ‘FROM’ that you pick on the upgrade shop page, right? i.e. The license you purchase is basically updating from version X to whatever the active current version is, so the version ‘To’ doesn’t really ever matter.
I think that’s the clearest way my brain can accept it.
It also makes sense how you can’t buy multiples as you can’t update ‘from’ the same C9.5 twice.
Just note the way Steinberg uses the words Update and Upgrade- Update is when updating one product. Upgrading is going from a cheaper to a more expensive product, like Elements to Artist, or Artist to Pro.
Precise and concise, I would say. In this form you can remember it well.
(For even more precision, add “… whatever the active current version is at time of activating the purchased update license.”
So you can buy the update (to 10.5) from 10.0, wait until one week before the planet earth gets hit by another planet, activate - and you will get Cubase 4711.5, skipping 4701 versions and saving >100K USD)
Exactly. If you look in the shop, you’ll see they only state FROM. There is no ‘To’. It’s to current version at activation time.
(Of course, policies may change in the future, but this is how it is now.)
And to be accurate, as Steve points out, this is for updates (newer versions), not upgrades (functionality expansions).
Thanks - I didn’t explain it well but the clever folk on this thread managed to desifer my question. I have cubase 8 and a license for 10 - so i will probably update to 10.5 after it comes out if it’s stable. Hopefully the planets won’t be destroyed though as I do have musical poop I need to get done first and that would make me sad.
(( I am so frustrated with this.