Can someone please point me in the direction of simple enabling/disableing inserts in Global stack? I can find very little detail in the manual.
I simply want to create some inserts and be able to enable or disable on a song/part basis. Created an Automation track but I’m completely confused by the input output settings for parameters of an insert - help greatly appreciated.
Also I thought that the Global Stacks were supposed to have a different visual skin? They look exactly the same as normal stacks.
This makes no sense to me, sorry:
1. Open the top Automation Track Inspector.
2. Click the Output Device field to reveal a menu from which you can select your output device.
Remapping Parameters
Once you have selected input and output device, you can select the individual parameters to
remap data to.
Remapping
1. Select your Automation Track.
2. Select In the Lower Inspector Area.
3. Click on the first available Input Parameter (“”). You will see a map of available input
parameters.
4. Choose your desired Input Parameter from the menu.
In the inspector select the global stack you want to automate (the stack itself, not the plug-ins you put as inserts) as input and output.
Then You can map the parameters you want to automate for the stack, so you can select insert 1 to 4 enable and assign to a “channel” of the automation track. Now you can draw an event in the track, and open it in the lower Editor, you’ll have the channels you mapped, and can draw automation. For inserts enable is >0, disable is 0.
Chers, Ciro.
Edit: if you need more than 4 inserts for a stack, you can also use the 8 inserts of the mixer channel, I this case, in inspector you can select the mixer channel instead of the global stack, and you’ll have the 8 inserts enable in mapping of the automation track.
Thanks for that, it seems very finicky - sometimes the pencil will draw, and sometimes not. I have to close VSTL and re-open to get this to work again once it won’t let me draw.
Ok, simply set grid to desired resolution, likely measure. Then click near the measure and the point will be drawed precisely at the meause. To insert a point at zero value, just click at the right time but at a higher value. Let’s say tou inserted a point at value 35. Then select the value on the data row above the graph and insert 0. Voila’.
Then, as suggested, make a event clip with one preset, another event clip with another preset and so on, you can also change the names of the events in the data line above tracks. Then copy paste the entire event clip in the desired position on the automation track like it was a preset change during play.
Until they make drawing automation like in Cubase so that in the pop-up window near the cursor you can see where you are and through the dash what is happening (whether channels are switched or amplifiers are changed or the effect is canceled, like here in the topic Feature Requests - #654 by sergeantt67
At the moment, drawing automation is torture, you move the right point, sometimes for some reason the left one moves along with it… in short, at the moment it is torture
More to this topic….. 2.2.30 had menu entries for parameters like scale and key for autotunes, sync note for delays etc etc… it is lost in last versions, please bring it back it was so useful @musicullum
Hi @ciro1983811 - thanks for these tips! I’ve done most of that, and managed to enter some automation. But as I said, it is very fiddly , and as @sergeantt67 says, extremely inaccurate. Hit and miss. And the pencil does refuse to draw at times, all tools become disabled, and only a closing and re-opening of VSTL brings them back to life.
I know I’m often complaining here ! But I am still here and working with VSTL - I really do think it has enormous potential - but there are still a lot of things to iron out - both in terms of bugs, and perhaps (dare I say it) in re-thinking some of the methodology. Given the pedigree of the Steinberg brand, it surprises me that sometimes it feels as if the team are re-inventing the wheel. We’ve all got so used to highly sophisticated DAWs, and touch automation would surely be welcome. Tiny drop down boxes with parameters are not a great start to anyone’s day - and as for automating Part Stacks - forget it - the list of repeated stacks is simply over-whelming.
Still I’m happy to be making progress with programming my first set (just with guitar and voice for now - keeping the audio mixer and TC VoiceLive handy just in case) with lights and click track.
you just need to make automation like in Cubase so that it would be clear what is where and when, and not try to guess when your pedal will switch at what value or the head of the amplifier will change or its channel, drawing automation in its current form is just some kind of hell, starting from these points that look like nothing to me…
There is one person here who keeps promising to do this but somehow he won’t do it)
What you are suggesting is just a tooltip with timeline position and value (list value when available) when you hover over a point? This should be easily doable.
Yes but in the meantime if you click on a point, you can see timestamp and value in the data row above graphs (and if devs restore list entries, you’ll see the list entry in value tab)
I have never seen in any version that this was there and worked, and one does not interfere with the other in any way. Cubase also has a window (even if it was there). A pop-up window is more convenient, at least it is definitely not unnecessary.
there is definitely such a window in Cubase and you can see how everything changes
VST Live never had anything like this, or I missed something, in any case it’s definitely not there now
And I repeat that Michael promised to do this… so let’s wait)
or are you talking about this timestamp, do you need to move the point to remember when the program changes and then enter the value? well, that’s absolutely inconvenient
Yes this one. I’m not following your English very well, but I only wanted to highlight that if you select a point with selection tool, you can see and change timestamp and value editing those fields. And this value field in previous versions had a menu list entries that I wish devs will bring back soon. From that point, adding a hovering tooltip to automation points should be trivial.
the list that you are all talking about, except for the meaning of the notes, I have never seen any other values displayed there, here is the version you are referring to 2.2.30, and where is what is there?
And I don’t care what was in some beta versions, the main thing is that now it is not there, so the argument is about nothing, in any case, the main thing is the result.
That is, it was necessary to draw a point in some version, then select it with the cursor and it would show something there?) Not too many unnecessary actions, when a simple pop-up window at the moment of drawing solves everything)
don’t judge strictly, that’s how google translates)
and ideally drawing automation should be as convenient as in Cubase and the author of the topic said correctly that there is no need to reinvent the wheel for this
