Beaming in Open time

Hello dear Doricians,

Still exploring Dorico 5, I created a project in the style of Berio’s Sequenza VIII for violin.

I started from no model at all; it was a completely new score.
I asked for open time and a quarter-tone tonal system.
Well ! But in doing so I came up against major problems with the beaming of the semiquavers, which are continuous.

I found a topic on this forum about the problem. It dates from 2022, and Daniel replies that, in this configuration, it’s not possible to influence the beaming by organising them, for example, as Berio does, every four sixteenth notes.

Is there anything new on this point in Dorico 5 ? I’ve looked in the manual and in this forum and haven’t found anything that satisfies me.

Secondly, I think it would be useful, in future versions of Dorico, to provide a shortcut key for breaking and/or linking beams (the slash key, e.g), rather than having to visit the Edit/Notations/Beaming menu every time, which is very impractical and time-consuming.

You can set shortcuts for a number of different beaming operations…

Yes, of course, but it’s not easy to find a shortcut that doesn’t contradict another. And if you need a different shortcut for each beaming action, it could be a headache ! :hot_face:

True, but that applies equally to your request for a factory shortcut!

As a suggestion for the beriot. I would identify blocks that share note groupings, manually beam the first, then copy and repitch (using Lock duration)

A point : how do you proceed to quote a message without we still see the “balises” ([quote= and [/quote, etc. ?

Thank you

Yes, of course. But I wonder if it is not a better way to input with a “false” meter, then hide both time signature and barlines afterward.
This way can control the beaming act, and, too, would provide greater flexibility with layout.

What do you think about ?

Make sure you have complete enclosing brackets and line returns around both the quote reference at the beginning and the close-quote at the end:

[ quote=“poster, post:#, topic:#” ] (but no spaces after/before [ and ])
[content]
[/quote]

Thus…
[ quote=“ObiwanKenobi, post:5, topic:940122” ]
A point : how do you proceed to quote a message without we still see the “balises” ([quote= and [/quote, etc. ?

Thank you
[/quote]

…becomes:

Thanks a lot, my friend.

I hadn’t understood the importance of the return key

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Returning…very important with library books, rental cars, and computer markdown. :smile:

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Why not experiment with both approaches and see which works best for you?

And also, for all Jedi Knights ! (Episode VI)
May the Force be with you. :wink:

When you select text in someone’s post, you get a little popup with buttons, the first of which is “Quote”. This puts the selected text, properly formatted as a quote, in your reply box. No typing needed!

Oh, but it is! For we can also make multiple-key shortcuts. When you type one keystroke into the little box, you see “…” after it for a second, in case you want to add another keystroke. I made myself shortcuts for beaming operations that are all two letters, one after the other (the first one always the same). These shortcuts even show up in the menus where applicable!

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Wow @Mark_Johnson , this is great idea for Beaming commands: I immediately tried it out and set:

BT for Beam Together
BS for Split Beam
BU for Make Unbeamed
BR for Reset beaming

Thank you!

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Perfect.
For my part, I preferred to use the keys on my numeric keypad, which Dorico doesn’t use very much. And, at the very least, it takes the strain off my wrist as I move around the menu edition.

Thanks a lot for the trick. :slightly_smiling_face: