Bizet: Carmen Prelude

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For some reason, I’ve transcribed the Prelude (Overture, if you will) of Carmen into Dorico.

Here you are.

Carmen.dorico (2.0 MB)

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Great job. Is the bass drum really above the clash cymbals in the original score?

Jesper

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Ah: no. It’s written as one staff with the Drum.

Left as an exercise for the reader…

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Thanks Ben.

Jesper

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Nice, will definitely have a look. Any special things to report?

Re: Bass drum and cymbals, I read that many times in the operatic repertoire from this time bass drum and cymbal is expected to be played together even if the score only has one or the other. Don’t remember the source for this though.

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There are some comments. And Proofreading has a few remarks.

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I may mention that timpani is missing in bar 132 and 134 and harp is missing in bar 132. :wink:

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Nice work, Ben! Maybe I’m missing something (like an update) but when I load your file into my version of Dorico 6, I get the message that your file was made in a later version. :thinking:

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Me too. Is Dorico update rollout in the UK somehow ahead of other markets?

Opens fine though.

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I believe Ben’s a beta-tester.

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Noticed that too. :smiley:

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Now we can “shake him down” for insider info on the new version…:smirk: :wink:

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Dorico 6.0.6026 (Windows) reports that the linked score was made in a later version of Dorico, and quits when I click on page view.

David

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Thanks for sharing! This is the sort of thing I like to do in Dorico myself.

Casting an editor’s eye over this, it looks good in general but I have a couple of comments, if I may (not detracting from your fine work).

  • The Horns probably need a sub-bracket to join them, and ideally would be numbered as 1 through 4 even though each pair is currently crooked in a different key.

  • Bizet composed Carmen with 2 Cornets, not Trumpets. I know several reference pages online (including Wikipedia), say trumpets, but they’re wrong, and probably cribbing from each other. (The Oeser edition, which purports to be a critical edition but isn’t, may have aided the confusion; I don’t have it at hand to check.)

https://ks15.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/d/d3/IMSLP517383-PMLP15769-Bizet_Carmen_Nr.01_Overture_fs_(etc).pdf

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Indeed. At the time, the cornets (based on the post horn) were being fitted with valves whereas trumpet players didn’t feel a need at that time to go that direction and to have to learn a new method. I recently recorded a program of romantic music for cornet and piano using historical instruments (including my 1846 Erard grand piano) and one of the pieces was a medley on Carmen, which appeared only a few months after the premiere of the opera, and it was full of chromatic runs for the cornet which had previously been impossible.

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I’d still like to know what the secret of the ‘newer version’ is. Was the file made in a beta version of the next release?

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Probably.

Jesper

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This, or it could have been saved on iPad. As far as I know, the iPad version numbers are often a bit ahead. I remember a thread from when Dorico on iPad was introduced, where people where a bit confused because of this very warning.

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Ah, that must be it.

Jesper

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A Dorico project contains several files.
This is from scoreinfo.xml

<createdVersion>5.1.81</createdVersion>
<lastSavedVersion>6.0.10</lastSavedVersion>