Cubase 10.5 next week?

[wjoyce]

@wcb123

So i look forward to seeing how exactly 10.5 will rely on the new w10 technology rendering windows 7 obsolete.

My understanding from browsing this forum, is that the Qt Framework that Cubase uses for development is the main reason for dropping support for older OSes. Features required to move Cubase forward, eg improved Windows HiDPI support, are only available within newer versions of the framework that don’t support older versions of the OS.

[skijumptoes]

@telecode

@skijumptoes

if you want to sit on outdated software that’s your choice, not Steinbergs.

Not really true. The DAW is a tool. Use the tool that is reliable and works well. I always stay a few versions behind the OS and s/w versions. I only upgrade if I absolutely need the features being peddled or there is something unreliable and unstable in the application and the new version is confirmed to be more reliable and stable.

You’ve just highlighted that it IS true - You decide when you want to upgrade or get out-dated, not Steinberg. Steinberg do whats best for their product and if fixes or features that progress that product requires a move to newer frameworks/OS then that’s just how it is. The majority users embrace and look forward to utilising new updates and features.

Anyone sitting on a 10 year old OS can’t complain about another company leaving them outdated, it’s backwards thinking. No-ones knocking down the doors of Win 7 owners and refusing them use of C10.

[skijumptoes]

@wcb123

It’s not just about the tech either, it’s a pretty conniving marketing strategy.

Go visit their offices and make their new frameworks fully compliant with Win 7 then, if it’s just a marketing strategy it should be easy, right?
You realise you’re accusing Steinberg of misleading it’s customers to sell more copies of Win 10? How that makes any sense is beyond me… Unless Yamaha are actually Microsoft in disguise?

This is a marketing ‘problem’ for them, not ‘strategy’… Dropping support for it’s longterm customers has no marketing benefits whatsover, care to explain further? lol

[telecode]

@wcb123

It’s not just about the tech either, it’s a pretty conniving marketing strategy. Perhaps they might have mentined this big news at the launch of the major 10.0 update rather than 6 months down the line when everyone’s bought into the version already. That’s not transparency. Given their product cycle history i purchase a .0 version fully expecting to be able to progress through to the .5 update without requiring a new operating system! It’s lucky 10.0.4 is actually stable as in the past their .0 versions have rarely been. If it wasn’t would feel completely cheated

I have been sitting out waiting for .5 to come out assuming it’s going to be more stable than 10.0.

I am on OS X.

[Steve1977]

It’s available now. I’ve just bought the update from pro 10.

[guybuss]

@Steve1977

It’s available now. I’ve just bought the update from pro 10.

Naughty boy lol

[Peter]

Yes, it was first up only in Steinberg Download assistant, but now first available to buy in the shop.

[guybuss]

New in Cubase 12: Time to Embrace a New Era

[djkey]

Introducing Cubase 10.5 | Advanced Music Production Software

[telecode]

Well. lll be damned. I was just about to post it’s probably getting released Friday.

[Funkybot]

Yes! How dare Steinberg stop supporting a version of Windows that Microsoft itself will no longer be supporting come January!

[Kaya_Orsan]

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[mitchiemasha]

As the forum deserts… VIDEOS, uploading right now!!!

[telecode]

First two questions for this new update

Will it Automatically show up in download assistant or do I have to do something in licence manager software.

[triton100]

@Kaya Orsan

Companies can’t dedicate resources to support every piece of obsolete software and hardware because a few stubborn customers don’t want to get with the times, especially after the original manufacturers themselves drop support.

Between this and the guy asking if he should finally upgrade his 20 year old fossilized dongle, some of you just sound like neophobic curmudgeons.

I’m that guy with the 20 year old fossilised dongle. It was a perfectly reasonable question. I have no issues with cubase. It runs perfectly fine. I was just curious. So why don’t you get off your high horse.

[Mauri]

@telecode

First two questions for this new update

Will it Automatically show up in download assistant or do I have to do something in licence manager software.

It showed in my machine… downloading now, I wonder what’s new!

[Tsjah]

it’s available in the download manager, Downloading now

[wjoyce]

I can’t see any mention of Windows HiDPI improvements. Will wait for confirmation before taking the plunge…

[Pablo1980]

can we just stop with the OS discussion and take it to another thread? you won´t change each other´s minds.

I like a lot what I am seeing in cubase 10.5 that delay looks very nice

[RichardTownsend]

@wcb123

@skijumptoes

@wcb123

It’s not just about the tech either, it’s a pretty conniving marketing strategy.

Go visit their offices and make their new frameworks fully compliant with Win 7 then, if it’s just a marketing strategy it should be easy, right?
You realise you’re accusing Steinberg of misleading it’s customers to sell more copies of Win 10? How that makes any sense is beyond me… Unless Yamaha are actually Microsoft in disguise?

This is a marketing ‘problem’ for them, not ‘strategy’… Dropping support for it’s longterm customers has no marketing benefits whatsover, care to explain further? lol

Wow. That clearly went over your head. Maybe re-read what i wrote. Steinberg must have known about this while devving Cubase 10.0. Why do you think they chose only to mention this rather huge bit of news six months after launch ? Since 2012 customers buy into .0 version with full confidence that they are also investing in a .5 version as well. An entirety of a version that takes two years to develop. In the past it’s usually taken up until the .5 version to iron out all the kinks, become stable etc.

So they delay the news (that will affect the majority of their Windows customer base and potentially change purchasing decisions) until most have already jumped on board C10. People do so and think they are now invested in the two year development cycle, a Cubase 10 and Cubase 10.5.

6 months later we are told .5 version will not support Windows 7. Windows 7 customers now own Cubase 10, but will have to upgrade OS to continue using it throughout it’s full phase.

That is the conniving aspect of it. And yes that is called a marketing strategy. Sales first. Tell them the bad news later.

If you’re going to allege duplicity by Steinberg, you need to provide some actual evidence.