Cubase 12 is coming in 2022

[SoundOf]

Glad to hear, some people exaggerating the issue, most are connected to the Internet but pretend that they are off the grid almost.

[ANAFREE]

@SoundOf

As for the fear of a subscription model, well, if you upgrade every year, think of that as a subscription! I am not a fan of the subscription model and hopefully you won’t change your mind 3-5 years down the line!

No whit subscription model you can’t use your software if you didn’t pay on maturity.
In contrast, with Usb licenser: If you don’t have the money for the latest update, you still able to use the software for ever because you paid for the current version in short

[gdfgdfgdfgdf3333]

The new encryption system didn’t surprise me, it scared me. I am convinced that when I can no longer use a hardware dongle, I will decisively throw away Cubase.

[JonasHAnd]

Hi!

I have a license for Cubase Pro 10 that is not activated.

If I activate it now will i get Cubase 10 or Cubase 11 license?

Will I be eligible for the grace period for Cubase 12?

Have been holding out on using Cubase for different reasons, one of them being the USB dongle. If I can activate now and get Cubase 12 without additional costs, I would probably go for it.

Thanks for clarification!
/Jonas

[mozizo]

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Gentlemen, please keep the discussion respectful.
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No ladies here ? cuz we lost the dongle !!

[cubace]

I hope your programmers have better imagination than the forum people on things that might fail over time. I think the dongle have served you well for 40 years. They still work, will you put your balls in pledge that cubase 12 will work in 40 years?

[snplmn]

It may be an inconvenience at first but I can see many advantages to this system once I get over the change/growing pains. I do think it’s important to maintain some degree of what made the dongle work well, but Steinberg can’t realistically hold on to ancient technology forever, especially when it’s not the programmers/designers who decide what kind of DRM the app employs.

Cubase is more or less the industry leading DAW, and for them to do a simple SN or challenge/response auth like some smaller DAWs or in general pretending it’s 2002 just isn’t plausible (as much as I wish it were).

[luke7020]

Are you serious when you say that the dongle would have served well for 40 years. Please tell me this is sarcasm. There won’t even be USB ports in 40 years, let alone computers the way we know them now. Some of the comments on this forum

[musicmaker777]

I’m on the same boat here. I think i buy Cubase 11 during this “grace period”. Then i’m sure i can get a free update to cubase 12.

[cubace]

If you have an old project it is likely that you will need a old computer. For the Atari dongle you will need a Atari computer. The same goes for the projects created today, it will need a old computer. A intel mac is soon obsoleted and with that a lot of plugins that will never be ported to Arm Mac. Midi have last 40 years so it is not completely impossible that USB will last for a very long time, RS232 much longer. But it is not relevant for the problem. The problem is that when steinberg plugs their new license servers the project are locked.
And for sure we don’t know what the future will be. At the moment it seems like the future is IOS and Android. And if that was people use application vendors have to adopt or die. Already now Steinberg says that the new license is not for them. How long do think Steinberg will run the new servers when the users have moved to IOS and Android? To be clear, Android and IOS is not for desktop/laptops today. IOS is more or less ready for Mac and android have close relatives that runs fine on laptops and desktops. It’s not unlikely that USB will survive both Mac and PC as we know them today.

[Outsounder]

A few years? Why have third parties - and yourselves) suggested the elicencer servers and support will cease in six months?

[luke7020]

I hear you, however I fear you are due a very rude awakening. The future is not iOS or Android. That’s the present. The future is AR and VR run by AI. And eventually that will mean music production too.

If you guys are fretting over the loss of a USB dongle, ‘you ain’t seen nothing yet’. You can hide in internet free nuclear bunkers all you like but we’re in the midst of an exponential revolutionary change in technology - the likes of which will mirror the industrial revolution and the iron age prior and so forth. A USB dongle is going to be the least of your concerns. I would buckle up for the ride.

[MarcoE]

Thank you for the new licensing system and I’m also thankful that you’re going to do the first real live “test” with Dorico and not Cubase. I understand that you want to do the first go live with a smaller user group. So from that perspective I’m happy to wait for V12.

[someone_from_germany]

And implement CC121 support while they’re at it!

[garethk]

And it’s also important to know if the new system will work in lower gravity environments. There is also the difficulties of registering a license on Mars given the time delay. That would be quite a tough logistical situation to put your balls in Pledge. Though furniture polish on one’s balls is not generally recommended.

[luke7020]

I mean seriously if you’re telling me there’ll be no way of registering licenses on Mars then I’m definitely out. Elon Musk will probably move to Ableton too. Ain’t no way he’ll stick with cubase if he can’t use his dongle on the Mars Rover. … Hmm I wonder if you’ll be able to register licenses underwater too. That’s a deal breaker for me if not.

[akole]

Now that the need for USB is finally going away, could it be possible to have Cubase ported to SGI Irix as well? Would be great to finally have a modern DAW running on my Octane!

What? Not possible for now? Aww

[JBuck]

This was the question:
So if in 3 years my eLicencer dongle breaks, can I still use 10.5 without giving Steinberg anymore money?.

@Ed_Doll

Unfortunately not. If your USB-eLicenser breaks after we shut down the license servers, you cannot use Cubase 10.5 anymore.

It would have been more helpful if Ed added to this statement:
So we recommend migrating your licence from your eLicenceer dongle over to our new system ASAP to avoid losing your licences while also avoiding the need to purchase another licence.

[Ben_at_Steinberg]

Ed is correct that if your license remains on a USB eLicenser which breaks after we switch off the eLicenser servers, then your software won’t work.

His statement has been taken out of context and used a number of times to illustrate users’ fears of losing their licenses. My colleagues and I have patiently explained several times that there a number of different migration options that we are exploring which will be communicated well in advance of the shutdown of the eLicenser servers.

Ed has one of the strongest voices within Steinberg to provide the best possible migration path for existing users. He’s on your side.

[shagazulu]

Sorry, I can’t read all 261 posts here… if this is covered already…

Let’s say my Cubase dongle breaks, BUT… I absolutely need to be able to open an older version of Cubase to access a lot of old projects of mine that contain, say, 32-bit VSTS I’ve used, or even more importantly for me, older Steinberg synths that came with Cubase, like that ever-so gorgeous Embracer synth. Is there a way to recover the broken dongle licenses onto a new dongle? … I actually have a spare dongle I could use, and I could buy an extra one for safe-keeping in the event dongles go out of style.