Tweswend! Nice constructive effort.
Many will appreciate.
NOTE: I am failing to post replies right UNDER specific posts.
Like Tweswend’s post, a few above this.
I have failed twice now at replying right under posts.
Please change the way the forum works so that I don’t get frustrated! hehehe
WAY past sleepie-time.
sorry for likely terrible attempt at ‘funny’ (given the grave seriousness of the subject*-) – and thanks all.
I would like independent brightness and colour intensity for tracks and separate for the mixer.
I do not want the mixer to light up like a Christmas tree when I select a channel. I am happy with the small tab at the very top, the one at the bottom of the channel and the fader cap being coloured in the mixer. Thats enough for me. If i go to settings and turn those colour slider settings right down the mixer looks way better but the tracks then look terrible. Be nice to control that independently.
…UPDATE…I now see I can untick tracks and folders and just use the brightness and colour strength for the mix console only !!! perfect. If I turn the colour strength and brightness down to zero and untick tracks and folders the mix console looks much better.
Another small issue:
If you have a latency with more than 2 digits, it doesn’t show in the narrow channel settings in the mixer. It could be fixable if we didn’t have this triangle just like c12
Neither does the stereo /mono icon on the mixer tracks when zoomed out as your picture shows , which means you have to continually keep zooming in and out with large projects
C13 GUI looks to me like it was made by some AI.
Those absolutely black empty effect slots - this is horrible.
Icons without even any borders so it’s harder to see and makes icons look blurry - nonsense. Not to mention that a good GUI makes more important icons ‘pop out’ for visibility. In C13 everything is equally flat which makes it harder to catch up by the eye.
This is the first time I’m unhappy with the GUI changes.
I like ‘modern’ types of GUI but this one looks tasteless.
Ps. Why faders are now more 3D than it was before? Isn’t GUI supposed to be flat and 2D?
Another annoying thing:
If you set the brightness for the selected track to high, the white font is almost unreadable.
Again, c12 changes the track name to black when you click on a track to keep the contrast.
Anthony Chisnall (One Man and His Songs on YouTube) has a useful video on setting colour schemes which might help as a starting point. He’s a smart chap but even he has found some odd settings in C13. Hope it helps!
Im happy for all the new functions. But I also do agree that the new look is not great for long sessions. To much contrast dark white and fonts are so small that it is annoying on a 4k monitor.
I went for a Brown theme so I can actually work with the new graphics. The Brown tames the white so it is better for my old eyes.
Fader/meters height and cap size also shrinked, but I think it is a compromise to bigger buttons. Also, we get narrower faders, with Channel Volume values not fully displayed. These are problems in compact view, but not problematic if not. It is not as compact as before. So, for those who want a more compact view it is not a all-good news, but the buttons really stand out.
I am just as upset and frustrated as ALL
From the company’s lack of appreciation for people’s opinions
Cubase still don’t fulfill the desires of many and they haven’t fixed many
But I have an important question: Is this a topic on which we waste a lot of time writing and comparing?
It will influence the developers and they will fix this bad design .?
Or do we have to wait another year until he releases a disappointing 14th edition for us as well?
The last version that was honestly worth the upgrade was version 11
And then these farces started and we are still buying every Upgrade for our love and we are accustomed to using it
But for how long will they ignore us? Are they waiting for us to respond with the same ignorance? And do not buy every copy or Go to other Company Studio one now It has all i want but i stil love cubase my sessions and my client all they know i use cubase
but i am now very thinking
cubase still only 4 Cues studio one is unlimit
local undo in studio one not perfect but i prefer it
and the design can resize every window and very customizable and i prefer it
Cpu handling better in Studio one
Audio Engine better in studio one
and much better support
and they listen to the Clients
I am on a 3840x2160 screen, Win 10 and an old pc (i7-6700K). To me, everything looks great. I even like the fader caps. The whole new flatter gui appeals to me, and everything looks more clear.
My graphics card is a RTX 3060. My monitor is a 43" Philips BDM4350.
mmm… yep not the best design, looks not complete yet.
hope they change and improve the key elements mentioned here,
its too amateurish now ! ( probably also part of the “surprise” is to get used to the new look over time)
maybe Cubase team really needs fresh design and planning head teams or some external help .
good luck with that !
I also think the Cubase 12 buttons and text look better than 13. Easier on the eyes. Really don’t understand why companies will get something right and then have to “refresh” it when no one asked for it. They do this all the time, from UIs to logos. Great example is the rounded corners on YouTube. What’s the point? I know I’ve got part of the videos missing unless I go fullscreen or theater mode. Don’t recall asking for this change or even thinking it might be nice. Why do they keep effing with everything as if they just can’t help themselves?
Maybe pop over to the Studio One forums for endless complains about the GUI’s visibility. Or, demo it, for perhaps (likely even?) an appreciation for STEINBERG’s hybrid first steps.
NOTE: for one, bigger, brighter text characters are WAY easier on 4K monitors and nice on 1K, 2K as well i find.
I’ve wondered if various posters here have read through some of the longer somewhat technical posts above. Everything’s going to work our fine!
I understand it’s easy to overlook all the ground-breaking STEINBERG’s done over many decades.
Tweswend is giving us some constructive breakdowns of various areas. Maybe see Tweswend’s posts above if you wish.
Its not simply an issue of looking different - some of the UI elements for people with retinal issues are really hard to see, like the track names in the mix console. I have cone dystrophy, and in 12, I could read them easily because I could invert them so that the white text was on a darker background, but now I have to look at a solid color with white or black text in it, and this causes the text to wash out unless I’m inches from the screen. I’ve went through all the color settings and none of them seem to affect this.
I feel like they didn’t just CHANGE the interface, but it went backwards for those of us who may have these visual challenges.
I feel very badly for the Cubase Product Manager right now
It’s hard to believe there isn’t a team of UX and visual design people at Yamaha/Steinberg helping design for all these scenarios and use cases and needs, and if there is - I feel really bad for them as well right about now.
Give me a call happy to help 20+ yrs in UX, usability, design thinking…