Hi folks, I’ve most likely been on this forum before, but not for some years as I abandoned Cubase after being with it since 1988 in favout of Logic… but I’ve been back to Cubase for the last year or so, sometimes regretting it!
Anyhoo, I’m getting stuck into MIDI Remote in conjunction with my Studiologic Mixface and, this time round, I’ve actually been getting somewhere, unlike last year when gave up on it. In fact this combination has been working fantastically well, to my great surprise, but there have also been issues resulting in my reinstalling Cubase and deleting all my scripts… but so far today, so good, as I’m staring from scratch with great care. Now onto my querie…
I am creating multiple pages within MIDI remote to switch between different tracks/MIDI instruments and naming them appropriately, such as ‘Serum’, 'Sylenth;, etc., but I can’t seem to edit the first page named ‘Default’ which is quite annoying. I previously tried going into the script file and simply changing the line where it has ‘Default’ to something else, but, oh no, this did not wok and may have screwed everything up resulting in a complete reinstall… so anyone got any ideas here? Thanks in advance.
So you created a js script file correct?
The intention of midi remote to use either the editor or the js script to declare and bind control elements, but not both at the same time. The moment you have a js file in the folder of your midi remote, cubase stops you from creating/ editing buttons in the midi remote editor.
Ah, you have lost me there, Joshua, I’m not that up on these scripts. I simply created a MIDI Remote script via Cubase, then wondered if I could go into the actual script and edit the line that has the default wording (in Text Edit) to something else, save it and then go back into Cubase and see if my default page name had changed, but it hadn’t. It just seems odd to me that you can easily change the names of any additional pages, but not the first ‘default’ one. I simply want to have the page names reflect the actual MIDI instruments that I’ve assigned the controllers to. Or not so simply…!
Ok, nvm my assumption was wrong, you probably didn’t create a javascript. But I think you should be able to rename the pages in the mapping assistant, so maybe try that rather than editing it in the code.
No, that doesn’t work; the option to change the default page name is simply not there, unless it can be found elsewhere…? That’s why I thought I could simply edit the script manually as I used to do a bit of Basic programming, but no, this is Javascript and I’m out of my depth!
Ok I just tested it, you are right it’s not possible to rename the default page in the mapping assistant. Only additional pages can be renamed.
I think then it’s not possible to rename the default page, if you’re creating the buttons in the editor.
It is possible have a differently named default page if you’re using javascript for everything, but I wouldn’t really recommend that for only that function.
Thanks… is there a place to submit suggestions to Steinberg so that option may be made available in future? It seem to me that it shouldn’t be a big deal, but I could be wrong!
use the tag feature-request here on the forum
The “Default” overwrites whichever name we might insert manually, as you’ve already found out.
However, I’m a bit curious on why you have multiple pages for different VSTis. For example, I have a single page, setup to banks of 8 controls each, and I edit via the remote editor the parameters order for each vst, so that I know exactly what each knob/fader controls every time.
Thanks!
Firstly, in my experience, the default name is there from the start and is unchangeable… it doesn’t overwrite anything.
Secondly, the multiple page function seems to me to be very important, as I can set up different groups of CC messages on the same set of physical controllers on my Mixface. Page 1 might be basic editing controls, using the buttons, such as opening instrument edit, selecting the eraser, activating a send and using a slider to adjust the amount… then Page 2 might be CC messages to control individual controls on a MIDI instrument, with another page to control another instrument. I then have one button to cycle through the different pages, named for the different instruments, which is why I wanted to change the name of the first page.
I guess everyone finds their own way to work with it and I’ll re-read your reply to see if it makes sense to me and may then adopt your method . I’ve also created a controller for my expression pedal and want to be able to use a button to allow it to control different features on different instruments - perhaps I’m being too ambitious? We’ll see!
Re-reading your reply, I don’t actually understand what you mean… could you possibly explain a bit more fully what it is that you are doing? Maybe your controller is very different from mine…
A common way to control parameters on VST instruments is to map your controller to VST parameters instead of MIDI CCs.
In the above screenshot you’ll see 8 instrument parameters you can map to your controller. The number of parameters available for mapping can be increased by clicking
=== Setup ===.Once you map to these, your controller will work on whatever Instrument Track you have selected.
The parameters themselves are defined using the Remote Control Editor:
You will likely want to define the order of parameters in this editor for each of your VST Instrument. The mapping in the Remote Control Editor is saved between sessions, so you’ll only have to do it once. Top right in the editor corresponds to Parameter 1 in the mapping assistant. Don’t worry about pages, they bare no significance when using MIDI Remote.
Thanks, I’m going to read through your reply a little later, but firstly I have a question: when I’m editing a control in MIDI remote I have to choose, in the Knob Properties box, either Note, Control Change, Pitchbend or Aftertouch. So if I’m not using CCs, what do I select there?
@John_Paul_Irvine, read mlib’s and m.c.'s replies carefully.
Ok, that’s one page. Editing. Another one might be all 8 sends of the selected channel, another 8 pages might be Send number 1 of the first 8 channels, Send number 2 of the first 8 channels etc. etc.
But here, you don’t reeeaally need multiple pages. You need one page, instrument control. And then, what control is connected where for each plug-in is done in the RCE of each instrument, as @mlib shows above. If you set it up like this, you just select a track and tweak away, there’s no need to also change MIDI remote pages at the same time.
What device are you using? It’s probably CCs that you’re sending?
Hang on, I’m getting confused… you’re talking about Remote Control Editor, whereas I’m only aware of the MIDI Remote Manager and MIDI Remote Mapping Assistant…
Read the replies again. This forum already have all the information you’re looking for.
I’ve mentioned my device already: it’s Studiologic Mixface and it sends mainly CCs (knobs and faders) plus note messages or CCs on the buttons.
Whoa, hang on a second, are we even talking about the same thing? Is the RCE a separate thing from the MIDI Remote page at the bottom?