Recently upgraded to Revoice Pro 5, and while it’s great to have it working again after version 3 stopped working on Apple Silicon, I am finding a few issues that are making it impossible to use. When using it via the ARA extension “RevoiceProLink” (not vst3) in Cubase 14, I can get the audio into the Revoice window, edit it fine, and I hear the results in Cubase playback. However:
The sync does not work properly - The playhead in Revoice does not move with Cubase’s playback. The only time the Revoice playhead acknowledges Cubase’s transport is when you play, and then stop in Cubase. Only then will the playhead in Revoice jump to roughly where Cubase was paused.
Revoice generates a temp file every minute, and fills up the hard disk with hundreds of temp files, which then leads it to crash and corrupt itself. I can’t seem to turn this off. Didnt know why my disk was suddenly completely full until Disk Inventory X showed me a few hundred gigs worth of Revoice temp files in a hidden folder.
When it crashes, it loses its connection to Cubase ARA: the edits are no longer audible, and if I open Revoice via the ARA extension window, it opens a blank unedited session. It will also open the previous correct edited session in the background, however I can’t get it to reconnect to ARA. If I close the blank one, Cubase just re-opens another blank one. If I load a cubase save or autosave from before the crash, the same blank window pops up. Therefore unless I export the audio out of this now orphaned Revoice project, those edits are essentially gone from ARA forever.
If I interact in any way with the region in Cubase that Revoice is using, then the connection also breaks forever. Cutting, moving, even just dropping another audio file after it on the same Cubase track breaks it. Blank window starts popping up in front of the correct one. This issue is the same when using the VocalignPro ARA extension, and i read about this happening with all sorts of ARA extensions.
I was recommended to try it in Cubase 13 but the same issues happen. Seems like it doesnt take much at all for Cubase to forget about Revoice, and Revoice to forget about Cubase.
Surprised to see not many other people dealing with these issues elsewhere, other than the classic interracting with a region breaking ARA connection bug.
Is this happening for anyone else?
Is there any way to restore/reconnect the original Revoice ARA session?
Is there a way to make the playback sync work properly?
How can we stop the incessant temp files??
Is this an issue with ARA, Cubase, or Revoice?
Don’t get me wrong, its fantastic when it works, and sounds excellent, but so far, a few hundred bucks just to waste several hours to losing edits and troubleshooting is not ideal
Mac Studio M1 Ultra / Sonoma
Cubase 14
Revoice Pro 5
you are not alone. I love RVP5 but the ARA2 support is a pain in the ass.
I have also problems with loosing connection between Cubase 14 and RVP5.
I use RV5 for my vocal edits. After the edits are finished I create a seperate track in Cubase and add the edited track via drag and drop function. This is my personal workaround because the track version feature is not working with RVP5.
If i do a new track version and got back to the one with the RVP5-ARA-edits… the connection is lost. I only get a emtpy RVP5 window.
I also looking for a solution to restore the connection or the files.
Where are the files? Do you found a directory with RVP sessions?
I also use RVP 5 as a standalone: Drag/drop audio Cubase 14 Pro→ RVP 5; work in RVP 5; Create new audio tracks in Cubase 14; Drag/Drop audio RVP→ Cubase 14 Pro.
Where is RVP putting all those temp files, how would I get to that hidden folder (I see you’re on a Mac, hopefully your answer will help me find it on my PC).
Hi @kraimor ,
To get my files into RVP I use their little work panel, not drag and drop. Using the panel works well almost all the time.
I know getting files spotted into RVP can be problematic in projects with variable tempo. There are some steps to take in those circumstances that can make the spotting accurate. Do your projects have variable tempo?
Sorry for the confusion - I do all of that without using ARA. ARA + RVP has always been a disaster for me, so I gave up on ARA long ago.
This was recently posted:
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Firstly on my system I find that ARA RvP usually runs once perfectly well but after that it’s unreliable. So I do the above one chunk at a time and restart Cubase between. In practice this isn’t too bad because it takes a long time to do a stack of 12 vocals so it’s a natural break.
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That sounds about right to me, that things work well once with ARA when using RVP, then fall apart.
I’ll have to consider whether restarting Cubase, as @GargoyleStudio does, is worth it to me just to use RVP in ARA mode.
I have also used the Revoice Pro Link Plugin (there is a section in the Revoice Pro manual describing that, between the sections titled “How to Work With Your DAW”, and “Standalone Operations”).
I use Drag and Drop mainly, though I think I will try @GargoyleStudio method of ARA and shutting Cubase down between each one. Sorry for the confusion.
Ah, I’ve never read the manual That probably explains a lot!! TBH I just dived in and then watched a few videos for the finer details. I’m all for automatic operation so I just let it do its thing and get out as quick as possible.
Yeah, this is the same for me. Melodyne is excellent in this respect, perfectly in sync. And, when you click the timeline it starts Cubase playback, very handy, but if you click the background then it plays only the events that Melodyne has showing in it’s timeline. I feel that SynchroArts should adopt these operations. They’re so simple to remember and understand.
very interesting