Cubase 8 Pro was not ready for public release

Most of you have probably upgraded from 7.5 to 8 and already have Padshop and Retrologue installed. If you just install Cubase 8 it does not install Padshop or Retrologue. In fact it does not even give you the option for these like 7.5 does?

NAMM starts in a few days…too bad most of the people on this thread can’t get into the event as it would make an interesting floor show for us attendees.

I think the installer senses those VSTi’s are already installed.
I upgraded from Cubase 6 (no Steinberg software on my fresh OS, installed CB 8 then installed 7.5, installer noted all that was already on my system that didn’t need to be installed twice.

My installation files were corrupted. I have redownloaded and all is fine now.

I just wanted to chime in with my 2 cents on this thread, even though it will probably be the same as other peoples response (thread TL;DR)

I bought C8P literally 5 mins after it was released onto the Steinberg shop and started into it almost immediately. I had extreme issues with my midi in/out, sync, massive crashes, you name it. Instead of troubleshooting, I reverted back to 7.5.2 in a huff, livid that my paid upgrade was basically useless.

When 8.0.5 came out, I rejoiced and prayed that all the issues I had encountered on day 0 would be fixed. Alas, I was wrong. In fact, I seemed to be experiencing increased problems.

Anyway to cut to the chase, I did a complete reinstall of my OS (Mavericks), installed C8P (8.0.0) and carefully tested each plugin to see what would be causing any problems. I still had issues with my midi but narrowed it down to a problem with the active settings on my virus ti synth in the midi preferences. Deactivating this has solved my problems with midi.

Additionally, I found that NI Replika was a massive culprit in causing extreme crashes in C8P. It would affect performance and would stop projects from loading if there was an instance present in the project at all ie it would crash before even loading up the project arrangement window.

I have since removed Replika, I’m not that bothered as it was a freebie and to be honest I prefer the Vengeance Delay & Cubase’s own delay. I am still experiencing some crashes, mostly when I try to open a C7 or C7.5 project and occasionally I have problems opening projects in 64bit mode. Running C8P in 32bit seems to be solid enough to be able to work on, although I am still getting a few crashes per day.

I did try the update 8.0.5 but this was causing to many crashes so I rolled back. I will patiently await the next update.

Overall, I am pretty happy with C8P (8.0.0). As I have already said, I do get some annoying crashes, GUI on vsts going black, opening piano roll etc on big projects tends to turn the screens white (this is a strange one) BUT I am no longer screaming for blood at Steinberg. There are some amazing features in C8P, render in place is such a god send and really has increased my workflow. The instrument & mediabay racks are a novelty at first, but I have since removed them as I don’t feel they are needed if you are used to key shortcuts (F5 mediabay etc).

I’d say i’m about 80% happy with this version, which I think for a 0.0 release, thats pretty good lol. I eagerly await the next update to see if the major flaws have been addressed, but in the meantime C8P is usable and happy with that!

Aloha t,

And exactly the same prob(s) here, on starting C8 or opening a project in 64 bit;
while 32 bit seems to be fine.

However once the project is up-and-running (in 64 bit using Safe Start Mode)
I have worked for hours in C8 without any probs at all.


Also I believe my start-up prob must be my specific ax (see sig) because I got a new
laptop for xmas (running Yosemite) and both C8 and C8.05 are flawless on it.

Once SampleTank 3 becomes ‘officially’ Yosemite compatible, I will change the desktop’s OS
from 10.9 to 10.10 and maybe things will then clear.

Good Luck!
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I feel Horrible posting this… The New Cubase is So buggy…

The Team have done so well & Features are unmatched… Sound Quality is unmatched.
honestly though… im spending 16hrs a day on this as i have alot of stuff & it’s crashing pausing… Costing me Time.

The full System just locked up, i lost control of my mouse & keyboard… it’s as if Cubase just lost connection…

I had it looping, it kept going… I pulled all the dongles out Ilok & syncro & it kept looping with No response…

I actually very upset by this, considering i buy every update & since 6.5 I have not used the updates…
I buy them to support Cubase & Steinberg as a company to get right, So i can enjoy making music stress free.

No one put a gun to my head to buy it no… but I want to use something i bought.
honestly would you buy a car with a shoddy engine like this?
it has a rattle would you keep at the car… Yeah right… straight back to the dealer… new one thanks.

I hate being negative & again cubase is a amazing Daw… it’s just so buggy…

compared to Ableton & really it’s not that great & it’s pdc delay is horrible & cpu problems… it works better then cubase.

you can freeze & render in place. it’s quick. it also has it’s pit falls as well.

I have been logging & taking videos & pictures of things happening in cubase as i go.

before you say we are in the minority… and lots of happy cubase guys… I have a facebook with thousands on there & alot use cubase on my recommendation & yes buggy for them also.

again amazing DAW CUBASE please guys fix it!! get it stable we love you :slight_smile:

Hi, I’m a hobbyist and so far I really love Cubase 8 but I must admit I had some issues too:
Several crashes (but far less than some other users are having), once the CPU meter locked up unexpectedly and I had to restart Cubase, a few times audio stopped unexpectedly, metronome issues (randomly inaudible when starting to record), menu unresponsiveness, audio mixdown incoherencies (had some holes in the generated file when they shouldn’t be there) and some other minor strange behaviours.
I’m sure that those issues will be fixed sooner or later and for me it’s really not a big deal since I still manage to achieve what I want in the end however I definitely understand why some professional user are pissed off.
I think that a software that called itself “pro” should not have those kind of issues when released.

State your system specs in your profile and you might get help. Otherwise you’re just ranting (and taking up space)!

Done. thanks :slight_smile:

I find it interesting that in your enthusiasm to accuse bantam of trolling, you seem to have missed the most interesting point that he made. The Delta 1010 is as old as the hills and the driver is probably not up to the job. It is clear that until you have tested out your own system it is difficult to make any substantial or substantiated complaints against Cubase 8.
I am afraid that 8 works pretty well for me other than a few annoying bugs like the click and the drop-down menu’s etc. I have had some other issues but discovered they were to do with older VST plugins and a 32 bit one I was using in mistake for a 64 bit alternative. I am not even sure that I know what your exact problem is as you haven’t explained, or at least I haven’t seen the explanation. bantam is just telling it from his perspective, which, to be honest, is really all we can do. There really is not much point in coming to this forum and expecting everyone to agree with your point of view.

Another point. Do you disable your Anti-Virus or Malware software when you are recording? This is often a cause of conflicts. Sounds like you have a lot of software on your machine, with possibly many areas of potential problems. I have always tried to limit my machine to the bare essentials for music making. I know that is not always possible, but it does make it a lot easier to trouble shoot.

I don’t think that any of us are saying that there is no fault with Cubase, just that a lot of the static is coming from some users who have not explored the possibility that there might be some issue with their own gear. There are general issues like the MCU problem that I can understand, generates a lot of heat from those who use Cubase in the course of their working life. Unfortunately they will have to keep on with 7.5. Inconvenient but not life altering.

I note in your signature that you use Slate plugings. I seem to remember that they have been having a lot of issues with C8.
Perhaps you could try taking the dll’s, or whatever are the Mac equivalent,out of the Vst folder and see what happens.

any link to that thread Re-Slate? I know a big update is coming with slate so for now im not using them.

enjneer’s post - the fifth one. Ithink it was this one but there are others if you search.

Yes my delta sound card is showing its age, reading up on a replacement that won’t cost around $2000 is a challenge though.
Silhouette, when someone (Bantam) accuses me of things I never said and caps it off with sarcasm I usually won’t respond in a positive manner.

My main issues mirror those most users have mentioned regardless of soundcard.
I’ll try suspending anti virus when using DAW software as I should.

Thanks
PS - I’m not new, I migrated when the old Steinberger dot com changed URL to dot net. A low post count shouldn’t indicate “new member”

I think most of us have had issues of one sort or another. However, I have seen what has been happening with Pro Tools and Logic and know that there is a lot of unhappiness with their users. The grass is not greener.
Personally I don’t think there is any excuse to allow 8 out of the gate with a dodgy click and non functioning MCU(for a second time). I am quite phlegmatic about it and will give them time to sort it. Unfortunately getting hot under the collar will not make that happen any sooner.:smiling_imp:

Personally I would take any comments from other members with a pinch of salt.

Yes I lost a lot of my post count too - my collar was most definitely warm! :imp:

Who are you to tell other people they are taking up space? this is a forum for people who have paid $ for a product to talk about issues they might be having. No one needs your permission for anything and hopefully you have something better to do with your time than this

I found his post helpful actually so speak for yourself

Call them out! raise your hand and make them address the issue publicly

well said.

I really hope the next update addresses the issues with the menu, the click and I’m good.