Cut-away Scores: What is and isn't possible to recreate from this in Dorico?

Again thanks,
Do you know if anyone had made a Lib like this for Box notation?
Do you know of documentation on how to make doricolib?

It is this I was trying to figure out how he did tuplet ratios including a note.
Being a noob, I don’t understand much on how Dorico works and the side interface didn’t give me this option but seem the properties do. Specially since I don’t want this globally, only in the measure that benefits from this level of clarity.

@judddanby has already answered your question, but I’ll add a bit of an explanation to it.

Dorico has you “define the tuplet’s base value” first. So ANY tuplet you enter, you will be starting by defining what it’s base value is, whether that’s a 3:4 or 5:7 or whatever.

once that’s assigned, you can actually enter ANY note values into your tuplet. and since Dorico doesn’t exit tuplet mode automatically (like Finale did) it will keep creating tuplets of that value, so having an 8th note tuplet, and entering a quarter note on that third bit of it, will create an eighth tied to an eighth (a total value of a quarter), with the extra bit of the note beginning a new tuplet.

I did a couple tuplets as an example, and the last note I entered was a quarter… so it started a new tuplet. In this example, I actually only entered 4 notes: two quarters, an eighth, and a quarter.
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Ahh — I totally understand the question now; I didn’t think all the way through to the tuplet brackets.

You can use two horizontal lines with long inward-facing hooks to create box notation:

Sorry, I don’t. Forum user @FredGUnn has considerable experience creating .doricolib files.

Thanks again John, yes I have seen that example of making Aleatoric boxes, I just want to make it a default lib so I dont have to recreate these lines every composition. it is nice to have things built in. I’ll track down Fred when I’m ready to explore that more.

You could just save your project as “Basic cut-away” or similar and use that as the basis for your new compositions. (not ideal, but will work)

I haven’t tried but I imagine the Library Manager would work for transferring custom lines between files?

I tried replicating @johnkprice’s example with a new Dorico project. I succeeded in creating the zero line staff (following this post ).

I noticed that in order to hide the instrument change label, you need to change the short name of the instrument to " " (a blank space). Is there any other way to do this? (As the blank name could cause trouble elsewhere). EDIT: I noticed you can override them manually with the blank space in engrave mode.

I could not figure out where the setting to fix the barline at the start of the zero line staff is. Could someone point me to the right direction?

Zero lines cutaway.dorico (470.7 KB)

Try changing the Minimum barline protrusion to 2 1/2 spaces in Engraving Options > Barlines > Design.

Thank you!

I guess that means that there is no way to avoid the percussion staves from changing with that setting:

Instead of changing the Minimum barline protrusion, you can give the zero-line staff an independent time signature in galley view. Select the barline before measure 3 in the zero-line staff and change it into an independent tick barline. Then switch to engrave mode and change the Tick adj. property so that Out and In are set to 1 9/16. Finally, go back to galley view and copy the independent barline to every other barline in the zero-line staff. Then page view will look like this:

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That is genius, thank you!

Not to horn in on someone else’s thread, but I’m trying to do the exact same thing (cutaway measures for a solo instrument) on Windows, so if you do have any insight into that it would be much appreciated!

See post #50 above.

Thanks but isn’t the zero-line instrument option from the post you link to specific to Mac?

Doricolib files are not OS specific. Just add them to your DefaultLibraryAdditions folder.

I believe it also works on PC, but I have not yet implemented it. You just need to change a user file…
Zero line staff - #9 by dspreadbury?

On Windows, open File Explorer, click in the address bar, type

%APPDATA%\Steinberg\Dorico 5

and press Enter. If the folder DefaultLibraryAdditions doesn’t exist, create it. Then copy the file zero-lines.doricolib extracted from ZeroLines.zip into the DefaultLibraryAdditions folder.

Got it, thank you! Unfortunately it appears that guitar tablature doesn’t work with switching instruments the same way that standard notation does. When I turn on tab, it shows both instruments the whole time, and when I switch back to notation only, it displays as intended.