Cut-away Scores: What is and isn't possible to recreate from this in Dorico?

nope, nope, nope… violists need LOTS of cues… lots, and lots, and lots of them.
It keeps us awake during those interminable violin solos.

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You can’t. @mducharme is correct that a separate “parts score” that isn’t cutaway would currently be necessary.

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As a former orchestral librarian with many years experience with a large regional orchestra, I’m telling you that you couldn’t be more mistaken.

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Yes, there must be a fundamental difference between orchestras in German spoken countries - compared to the rest of the professional world.
In Germany professional orchestras do have and take a lot of time for rehearsals. I realise that f.e. British and American instrumentalists are quite often used to rehearse “top and tail” and can play straight into a microphone during a recording session. Of course cues are crucial in these circumstances.
I can’t really speak for other countries.

It’s very good information to know this is still the case in Germany. I think most American orchestras would certainly love more rehearsal time; the economics of the arts with so little government support here just don’t permit it.

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Depends who the conductor is…

Exactly, rehearsal time is for conductors, too :slight_smile:

Hi! This topic is discussed here also. I use this method.

It’s confused and it has errors at pdf export, but I think, for now, is the best way to do it in Dorico. I hope Dorico add this soon…

When I have to export in parts I create a copy of the project and erase all the invisible instruments.

Hmm while I seem to be able to do this with multiple instruments it does not seem possible to do this with a solo instrument which is my use case. Unless there is a different way. I’m trying to replacate:

Your use case requires a different approach. To obtain gaps in one staff, you can use a single player holding a five-line instrument and the zero-line instrument from this post and change back and forth between them:

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Here is my attempt to replicate the example you gave in post #49:

And here is the project:
Solo Instrument Cutaway.dorico (540.0 KB)

Because the notation is quite complex, replicating this example requires more than just a basic understanding of whatever notation software you choose.

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Bravo, John. Every detail reproduced* and looking better than Finale in many ways! I don’t even know what some of these notations mean. (What do ties across lyric syllables indicate? And the round notehead with dot?)

(* Except the tortoise-shell bracket on the last one. I wonder whether that has a meaning, or is just a style someone copied from a manuscript.)

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John thanks you for you time and making this sample for me. OK so I need to hack the instrument.xml to be able to achieve this? Do you if I send this file off to my publishing when they open it would they get the same affect without hacking there instrument.xml. That would be a concern for me but I guess I will find out once I open your example. Again thank you for your time on this.

Yeah circle-music form is not as well known as other forms. You can read about the history on my blog (try searching google for Cindy McTee’s “Circle Music”) if you can find it. I did a talk about it at the Aspen Composer’s Conference in August and premiered this work.
This is for solo flute, on the section you asked about: you speak the words while holding down the keys for that note. It is a subtle effect that only works for very quiet sections.

The round notehead with dot indicates slap tongue technique. There are a few ways people indicate this. Replacing the note head with an accent mark > might be the most popular but the circle with the dot was fast in Finale and I had a tight deadline for this piece originally. And the last one with the E5 and harmonic mean to slap hard with a little more air to also produce the E as a harmonic.

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So opening the file did answer my question, someone without this setup in their instruments.xml will get this same affect. So that is great, Now I just need to figure out all the tricks John did to make this example!

There is no need to hack the instruments.xml file. If you want to add the zero-line instrument to Dorico so you can create gaps in systems with a single staff, follow the instructions in this post if you use macOS. If you use Windows, I can give you additional help on what to do.

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No I’m a Mac guy. Thanks again. Being completely new to Dorico, yet using lots of advance techniques in some of my music your example if very appreciated. So far you help me discover I can my custom articulations like in Finale, so that is a big relief. Hopefully I can import SVG files for custom articulations. Now I just need to figure how you got the quarter and eighth note into the triplet, I didn’t see that option in the tooling like in Finale.
For the last measure to get the dotted half note, that is just a text box? It not really apart for the line. Can you make/import custom lines shapes like you can in Finale?
It seeming like for Dorico at least a lot of my piece need to be re-created. Import via mxl some piece just don’t even show up afterwords. I need a team of interns to save 30+ years of music it seems.

The dotted half note in the last measure is an instance of staff text using a paragraph style with the background color explicitly set to white so the text will erase the part of the bracket underneath it.

OK cool I’ll check that out, I have made all these custom libraries of line and articulations for Finale, seems like I will be able to recreate the ones I need. But hopefully many will be obsolete, when I started Finale didn’t have bartok pizz and quarter tones so I had to make my own. I won’t need those anymore at least.

Unless I missed that this was answered, the way I do this is on the computer keyboard (I actually use a Stream Deck):

  • set my note value to eighth 5
  • choose tuplet ;
  • switch the note value to quarter 6 then enter the first note
  • switch to a eighth (5) then enter the second note
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