Disable mouse fader movement in the mix console

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Hi @OFS !
Not to imply it’s all peaches and cream, but as you say you’re new to/evaluating Cubase, I thought I’d mention several tools to make scrolling around the Mix Console easier, in case you haven’t come across them yet (applies to the big window mix console, I can’t speak to the lower zone version):

  1. The L/R arrow keys will whizz you in either direction very quickly
  2. One can assign tracks to one of three separate zones using a control on the left of the Mix console, so the # tracks needed to be scrolled through is reduced
  3. One can make a track “invisible” in the MixConsole using another control on the left (for example, I rarely need to see a MIDI track there), thereby making one less track to have to scroll past
  4. One can assign a track to one of four different mix console windows

The above don’t make using the mix console a tantric experience, but at least the number of tracks one needs to scroll through can be greatly reduced using a combination of the above, and the L/R arrow keys can make that happen very quickly indeed!

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Hello Alexis, thanks a lot for reaching out.

Unfortunately, my demo expired today so I really can’t try your suggestions anymore. Having said that, here’s what I think:

  1. Might be a sensible solution, it really depends on how fast or controllable it is. It’s worth a shot

  2. I got the zones thing, I messed with it and it’s a nice feature but I don’t think it solves the issue completely, although it has other very nice usages

  3. Visibility is a nice way to deal with it but I don’t find it very practical in Cubase. It’s a lot o clicks on the visibility tab to get what I want. If they had reflected the arrange area folders and their open/close state on the mixer I think I would be fine with it. Also, why the hell aren’t folders also buses??? At least optionally. It would be nice to have them as a purely organisational feature but why not having them function as a group optionally? Logic does this and it’s cool.

So you know, I use Studio One presently and a great thing they added is a filter tracks feature by name. If you type GTR, all tracks starting with GTR (GTR1. GTR2. Etc) can be handled in one go. I also added a macro to make them all visible/invisible and selecting a group of instruments is just one key command away. What I did for this to work is develop a naming scheme where each track related to a certain instrument (or bus, or FX, whatever) starts with something like “g.” for guitars or “v.” for vocals to make the filters work as I want them.

  1. The various mixing console views are amazing and I could see myself using them a lot.

However, as much as this is hard to believe, the mouse wheel thing - the purpose of this thread, is my main peeve with Cubase. Mind you, annoyingly, Studio One also has this thing going on, and a lot of people in the PreSonus forums also ask for it to be optionally turned off, but so far, no dice…

There are also a few other small thing in Cubase that I really don’t get. For example, you can copy one track’s inserts and copy them to another track, but not to multiple tracks. Why??? I found the interaction between Q-Link/Link/Track Selection thing in Cubase confusing. I don’t really see a consistent pattern for actions for selected tracks. Some thing work in tandem when tracks are selected, others don’t. It’s weird. The Link thing is amazing with all the synchronised stuff you can do with between the linked tracks but in my mind, if I select a bunch of tracks and I act on them it’s because I want something to happen to all of them.

In S1, if for example I want to copy all the inserts to multiple tracks I just select then and drag from the top of the track that I wish to copy from to any of the selected tracks and they all get the inserts from that track. I can do the same with sends.

All in all, I prefer the way Cubase looks - everything is big and spacious while Studio One has a lot of information on the same screen, everything is kind of small and becomes tiring and confusing easily. The takes system in Cubase is also better, the multitrack drum editing is really nice (Studio One is OK also), but in general, visually and in terms of functionality, I was really enjoying Cubase, but the small things I describe make it a no-go for now, but I’ll certainly keep paying attention to what’s going on in Cubase-Land because there’s a lot to admire in it.

Also I had some stability issues with Studio One that started to make me look into Cubase but I didn’t have the time to do a heavy session in Cubase to compare it to S1 in this regard.

Sorry for the long post and thanks once again for your help!

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Steinberg, you guys are literally making up excuses. This is one of the most heavily requested things on this forum. I’m not a programmer. I understand it’s not an easy feat and I don’t know how to technically implement it. But you have probably 5 different ways by now that you could solve this issue. This thread was opened in 2018. It is baffling that you could even still be discussing it. It actually borders on comedy.

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FIY this is easily possible in Cubase as well. I do the exact same thing. :slight_smile:
Visibility is AFAIK very similar to S1.

A lot of actions are possible on multiple selected tracks when pressing alt+shift IIRC. Like editing panning or Volume, Adding/removing/bypassing plugins, etc.
Never tried to copy track inserts onto multiple tracks, but could be possible as well :thinking:

The mousewheel thing is indeed very annoying. I made my own scripts to make it work, I don’t really see, how this should be that big of a problem to implement.
My guess is, that there are some people in their team straightly disagreeing to implement it, because they don’t like this idea. Not because it would be too hard to code.

Just make it possible to scroll by using a user selectable modifier key: Boom, solved!

EDIT: @OFS if you have the lower zone mixer or the mixconsole open you can select a track, hit CTRL+C and select as many tracks as you want and hit CTRL+V and the channel settings including insert plugins and sends will be copied to the selected tracks.

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Hello Tj99, sorry for the delay. Thanks for the input. Unfortunately, my demo period has expired so I can’t try out your suggestions. I’ll keep checking on Cubase regularly, though.

Meanwhile, I’ve been rocking out on Studio One 6! Of course, the freaking mouse wheel thing is also still there, I don’t think they’ll ever address it.

Anyway, thanks for helping out.

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I just lost half a days work because of this. Really surprising that this has not been addressed. Perhaps the most unfortunate aspect about an otherwise awesome DAW.

Just realized that a few days ago I must have inadvertently adjusted the volume for multiple audio tracks, (probably while scrolling through my session) and took hours to search out the backup session and then manually reenter all the correct volume levels for 20 mic inputs. And even this did not work, because I must have accidentally made these adjustments one by one over the course of many different incrementally numbered sessions. So in the end I had to go through and remix everything, disabling VCA faders and linked group volume settings as I went.

Incredibly disappointing workflow Killer. I signed up for an account on the board here just for this. Steinberg, can you please address this? At the very least, like so many other DAWS, including Vienna Server Pro which allow to disable two finger trackpad volume/pan adjustment, can you please allow us to disable for track headers, MixConsole, Inspector?

I have a terrible feeling that this will not be the last time I lose hours of work, just at the very moment when efficiency is so so important.

Please address this for the next update!

Thank you

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Another one bites the dust… :slight_smile:

I just find this option so strange. Scroll wheels are for scrolling around the screen in every app in the world. For some reason, DAW designers thought it was a good idea to add a behaviour totally opposed to the expected result. It can only lead to errors. For me, an option should be added to disable mouse wheel changing stuff throughout ALL the UI. Since some users, maybe a lot, seem to like this, it should be an option, but I’d surely disable the feature right away and be happy.

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Happy 4 Year Anniversary to this feature request!

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I have just installed PhotoLab 6 and fortunately the scroll wheel has no effect on parameters. I can scroll through the effects list without affecting the settings inadvertently. What a joy to use, too bad music software can’t do this.

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We have to be patient :man_shrugging: some people don’t get it. We need more votes. 47 votes is a small number. I hope we hit 100 next year.

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I get your point, but the question is how many votes are needed to upscale a feature? I’d think it may also depend on how hard the coding is and I can’t imagine this feature being very hard to implement.

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+1! So needed

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I am pretty sure it is more a decision thing. If an amateur programmer like I am can write a script to do it with an external program in 20 minutes, they probably have it in 5.

They did non implement it either because they don’t think it is needed, or because its not a priority for them, definitely not because its too hard to implement.

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I think the more votes the better. What I mean is 49 votes is a small percentage of the Cuserbase, so not everyone wants this behavior to be disable and since it’s tagged as a feature request, I think it’s taking so long because they want to achieve this, so it satisfies everyone. Which is fair.

For me, I think the people who like cubase mixer owes us a video tutorial on how they go about navigating the mixer freely, without changing values. :man_shrugging: may be there’s a specific way to use the mixer that we don’t know?

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Yet if you sort the topics by votes, this one is in third place.

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Oh nice thanks for letting me know! How do you sort posts by votes?

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Hi,
I’m with you, I don’t think they should remove the feature, I know many people like it. If you read past posts in this thread someone from Steinberg even says so. I just wish for an option in the preferences to disable it for those of us who don’t like it.

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I too just wish for **an option in Cubase Preferences to disable mouse scrolling of mix console Faders. It ruins my mixes all the time, often right before I do an export for a customer.

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+1
Steinberg, please give us the option to choose!

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