Dorico 5/Noteperformer - Best Sounds for choir?

It is my understanding that Noteperformer will choose the best sounds for instruments used. Does that mean that the Olympus choir sounds are automatically selected for playback?


Hi @JamesR
NP uses his own choir Sound. If you want to override this you have to
edit the Playback Template, duplicating the Note Performer PT, and overriding the Singers Family with another added Library configuration positioned on top, that has for example Olympus in it, and rename as desired this newly created combined PT, save it clicking on OK and apply it.
At the end the singers will be automatically assigned to Olympus, and all other instruments to NP :slight_smile:

Here below the visual procedure (just follow the numbers):

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No, that’s not how it works .

Noteperformer has its own sounds. However, you can also choose to use samples from certain libraries, which NP will ‘direct’ to give a well-balanced sound with phrasing. That doesn’t include Olympus.

As Christian points out, you can create a Playback Template that selects the sounds from Olympus before those of Noteperformer.

Thanks, I was able to create a new template. I must admit, however, that the Noteperformer voices were preferable this project.

Do you know if there is a more realistic voice/choir sound available!



if you want a choir that can sing free text, your options are very limited – only a couple of of EWQL ones manage that and for that reason, that’s what I have chosen. Simply regarding sound, there are countless options, most of which are better than the very basic NP choir and you need to say exactly what sort of music you want a choir for as the requirements of film “mood” music - which is what most of them actually primarily cater to – is very different from church music.

I don’t think we will get truly ‘realistic’ choir sounds – even doing Oohs and Aahs – without software considering the phrase as a whole.

As Fred says, only about two or three libraries support the creation of ‘syllables’, so that the choir will sing the words, and even then, because our brains are so atuned to speech, it can still sound mechanistic or limited by the sounds it can make.

Otherwise, you’re just looking for a realistic rendering of “aah” to every note. Even EastWest’s Symphonic Choirs, which is regarded as one of the best, has some really bad ‘scoops’ on the front of the note:

I’m looking for traditional choral sounds, SSA/SATB. Text is not necessary would be nice especially if I could find an application that could incorporate IPA for accurate pronunciation.


Jim, the All Saints Choir from SonicCouture sounds great, but limited to just the vowels. There’s also an incredible AI tool called Synth V which has a free version, but the voices are not really very good for traditional choir sounds, even though they’ll sing any words you like. Maybe if it was layered with All Saints it might produce something half decent, but would take an awful lot of faffing around.

I don’t get bad ‘scoops’ on the front of notes with the Symphonic Choirs:

Is that the Soprano Aah? I wonder why there’s a difference. It’s only one some notes, so I assumed it was the samples themselves. I haven’t changed any settings. I can reproduce this on both my Macs.

TBH, there are other qualities to the voices that I don’t like either, so I don’t use it much.

I’m using the Soprano WordBuilder multi with medium vibrato.

I’m using this:

I only use the WordBuilder multis, which is why I had not encountered the bad ‘scoops’. But trying the intrument patch you used, I can hear them now, especially on C an octave above middle C.

The patch you used has four keyswitches from C0 (three octaves below middle C) to D#0. These keyswitches determine the type of attack used for the ah vowel. C0 gives a normal attack, C#0 a legato attack, D0 a staccato attack, and D#0 a slurred, sliding attack. Apparently when this patch is loaded, the D#0 keyswitch is used by default.

Aha! Thank. I’ll experiment. Also, can you improve the range? The Wordbuilder voice only goes down to Middle D.

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You can pitchbend the samples in Play or Opus, but I quickly learned that overuse of this ability makes the choir sound like Alvin and the Chipmunks! When I need the Sopranos to go below D above middle C, I add their out-of-range notes to the Altos if they are singing the same rhythms and syllables. Otherwise, I create an additional instance of the Altos to sing the out-of-range notes for the Sopranos.

That’s really tedious. Middle C is a fairly common note for Sopranos.

As a bass myself, I dislike that the Basses cannot sing higher than D above middle C.

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the annoyingly limited ranges is the reason I use Hollywood Choirs for sacred music. Of course you can also use the Mens and Womens choirs in Symphonic Choirs but then there are some dynamic imbalances across the range.

Ditto. Eric Whitacre choir has the same limitations.