Dynamic Text

Hi!
Simple question, but I stuck …
Normally I can input p espress. as dynamic text (cmd-d), but I am not able to input just espress. as dynamic text or < express. (cresc. espress.).
What am I doing wrong?
Thanks in advance!

Either use p espress, and then hide the p in the Properties, or just use Text with a Paragraph Style that matches the Dynamic Text style.

Dynamic modifiers (= any additional text alongside a dynamic) have to have an accompanying dynamic. You can add “espress.” as a prefix/suffix to existing dynamics, including hairpins.

Thank you! I try this workaround. :slight_smile:

Thank you! Since I have to engrave a piece of Puccini, where there is no material available, I try to get close to the original score. And Puccini uses espress. or <espress. as dynamic signs … I will hide the p or whatever in the popover menu.

So if I wanted to add espress. without it being tied to a dynamic modifier, in italics, spaced evenly between the staff in piano music, what would be the best way to do it? Shift-X text? Which paragraph style would be recommended so I don’t have to do a lot of re-positioning in engrave mode?

Much music published by some of the world’s largest music publishers do this. In my opinion, that makes it standard music notation. It’s too bad dorico doesn’t allow us to use such a standard notation without the tedious step of going into properties on a per entry basis. The same could be said for things like rit, rall, accel, legato and the like (some, but not all shift-t items) being in italics between the staff in keyboard music rather than only allowed above the staff in non-italic bold (as in instrumental parts where it is just fine that way). I was looking at a book yesterday published by one of the world’s largest publishers - which implies most musicians in the world are accustom to seeing it the way they do it which makes it a notation standard - in which such terms were in italics between the staffs. The book in question was published two years after dorico was first released so it isn’t archaic or non-standard. But we can’t do that.

Paragraph style for generic text: you can create your own one, and if you save it as default, you can set up a key command for adding text with that paragraph style already selected.

Dorico allows you to enter such text as a modifier alongside a dynamic (with the option to hide the dynamic if you want) or as generic text, with various text formatting options available to you. You could even create a custom playing technique for “espress.” and other common modifiers, if you really wanted.

Tempo marks between piano staves: this has been discussed before, e.g.

See Daniel’s response in that thread:

You can also change the formatting of the font styles used for tempo marks if you don’t want them bold.

Why don’t you simply suppress playback of the dynamic, then you are not tied?

I do it exactly as Lillie described above. I have a Paragraph Style called “Expressive Text” that is just the italic variant of my main text font. I created a shortcut for it, so whenever I want to input italic text I simply invoke that shortcut rather than use Shift+X.

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Best answer, create a new paragraph style. I’m not worried about playback in most things I do. That having been said, as I get more into dorico, playback may be something I’ll have to rethink given how well it looks to be implemented.

I did not know that tempo marks between staffs had been discussed with the answers given. I did search but there’s only so much time in the day to be reading everything on the forum , even all the replies I get. I’m kind of surprised it wasn’t in version 1 given how standard it is in piano music. Thanks though.