Edit Variaudio without affecting the "source" track after copy/paste

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Hello everybody.
I inserted an audio track and then did a lot of Audiowarp changes to correct and precisely match the voice and the beat.
This track will be used as some sort of “source” track for the rest of this audio track.
Every time I use copy/paste from this already inserted audio source, when I edit Variaudio on the second track it doesn’t seem to be an independent copy from the first one. Everything that I change, it affects the first one, which is not what I want.
I would like to do different changes on different audio elements, which all come from the same “original” audio track, and I would like that every piece of pasted audio remain “independent” from the others.
So… it’s possible (I assume yes) to make copy/paste of an already inserted audio piece and edit this independently of the other ones?

Thanks in advance

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I’m not aware of any function where VariAudio is creating a copy but instead it is always altering the source.
What I do is, I just copy the source and have one “unedited” version which I can replicate multiple times:

Duplicating Clips in the Pool (steinberg.help)

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Check this section on editor to control what you see and what you edit. You might be editing all of them while seeing just one.

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Hi @Gisornator
I duplicate in the pool and edit the copy with Spectralayers.

BUT:
When I make the changes permanent, will they be on the original file or on the copy?

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Will be were you made them permanent, if you applied permanent on copy then will be only on copy

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It should be on the copy, if you edit the copy.

I duplicated the audio file like it is described in the docs

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I use both files in the workflow:
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And then I can edit them with VariAudio individually.

Original:
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Edited:
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I hope that helps :slight_smile:

[Edit] I have to correct this: it does not create a new physical copy.

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I asked since the manual says it won’t create a new file on the disk but a “new version”…

Manual:
Duplicating a clip does not create a new file on disk, but a new edit version of the clip that refers to the same audio file.

It seems strange to me that permanent changes from Spectralayers don’t overwrite the original file… even if a copy was created in the pool.

However I will do some testing

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Yea this is true, there is no new physical copy - I edited my original post. But it still does not affect VariAudio changes (I can change both Clips individually).

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Hey Gisornator,
Thanks for taking the time - it has been really useful for me.

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It might be that.
I noticed, that although I made multiple copy-paste from the original clip, I can always see what’s “left and right” of the original clip, which in theory I already cutted before, only grey shadowed because it doesn’t belong to the copy-pasted section/event

I’ll check it at home.

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This is because you don’t really cut the clip itself. When using the cut tool, you create events, however, their base will always be the clip. When you use tools like VariAudio, you edit the clip, which is why you still see left and right whats happening. The good part about it is, that you can still change the event markers if you cut too much and need a few more millisecons before or after the event.

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To possibly understand the relationship between an event, a clip and audio files better this might be helpful:

When working in the Sample Editor you work on clips, not events. If several events point to the same clip (the one that you alter), all of the events will of course playback the altered audio.
Usually Cubase will prompt you if you want to create a new file before working on VariAudio. It might be that you have surpressed these prompts in the past.

Here is how to get them back:
grafik

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