I have a full score in Dorico and I would like to save the individual parts.
I know that in Dorico you can select the parts and print them directly but my intention is to save only the part I need, without the rest. When I try to save the part, for example “Violin I”, Dorico saves everything together. This is not what I want.
Is this possible?
If you want a Dorico file that contains only a single player (as opposed to saving a single layout as PDF), I think you would need to save your file as a copy and then go into Setup mode and delete all of the players that you don’t want.
Edit: This is wrong. See below.
Really? That’s the way?
EDIT: If there is no other solution, I think this would be a nice addition to Dorico. What if one only wants to share an individual part and not the whole project?
Toto, thats easy:
Go to Setup Mode.
Have a look at the right panel with the different layouts (“parts”).
Select and delete all layouts - except the one you want to “extract”.
Now go to Engrave Mode and adjust your Layout, if necessary.
Switch to Print Mode and extract your part (layout). Either print it, or extract as Graphic (.pdf, .png, or whatever you prefer).
If on the other hand you want to “extract” your layout as a .dorico file, go to the File Menu and choose “Export”.
In the following dialogue you can select your layout (part).
@k_b is right about using File > Export > Flows. I was thrown off by the fact that it says “Flows”, not “Layouts”. But if you open that dialog, you’ll see that you can select all flows, and then certain layouts for those flows. You can then select just a single layout, or you can select several layouts and tick “Export layouts as separate files”.
@asherber I’ll try that ASAP.
@asherber Yes, it worked as expected, however the saved part is the same size as the full score, so the full data is still there, maybe not available but still there.
This is something I don’t understand, why a separate part has to have all the full score data if the user’s intention is to exclude it? Plus it makes the file unnecessarily larger.
It’s very likely that what’s causing the file to be big is playback data, which Dorico does seem to carry around. It would be nice if Dorico could be smarter about trimming data it doesn’t need.
One way to get rid of the excess data is to open each exported file and just hit Save. I tried this with a 3MB score that has one flow; a single exported layout was also 3MB, but after opening and saving it, it went down to 1MB.
I was able to squeeze another 100KB out of it by reapplying my playback template to the exported file and saving.
Yes. My full score is just over 7MB, the saved part was also the same size, after opening and saving it, it went down to 5MB. That was the cello part, however, the Violin I part of the same piece that I did from scratch is barely 1MB…
EDIT: I removed some of the unnecessary VST data and the file size dropped to 2MB, I can deal with that.
Thanks for your help.
Toto,
out of interest, why do you need to share single layouts/parts as .dorico projects?
Reasons I can think of:
- you want to listen to that instrument on your own.
- you like to send the .dorico file to a player so he or her can do some editing in Dorico.
- you like to have the “parts” saved somewhere to access them at a later point.
I was wondering that too. It seems like an organizational nightmare that will just increase the chance of discrepancies creeping in as the part and score could be edited separately. It’s also then twice the work to incorporate actual edits. (Flashback to my pre-linked parts Finale days.) I’m not sure how extracting a Dorico file is a preferable workflow to a PDF plus audio, whether solo audio or the complete ensemble.
It is quite possible that @Toto23 has not considered (or does not yet know about) .pdf export of part layouts.
All three reasons are correct.
Add one more option: I do editing on the individual parts that are different from the full score (some simplifications)
You’re kidding, right?
No, from your first post it is not clear, which format you are talking about.
If you want to listen to one instrument only, you can do it in the full score (by selecting two notes of one instrument before clicking P for playback).
If you want to send out parts to your players to put in notes manually, you can send them pdf files.
If you send the parts as .dorico projects, then all your recipients will have to have a Dorico installation.
Someone will have to put the edited parts back into the full score.
As mentioned, it is a source for errors, almost inevitably.
That’s why I would recommend against it, if there is a better way.
I’m sorry that’s not clear.
I know everything you’re talking about. My intention is to save the individual parts in a .dorico file independent of the full score. PDF is not good for what I want.
As I edited in the previous post, I need to make some simplifications in the individual parts that are not possible to do in the full score.
Ok., that makes sense.
Just as an alternative, you can implement the simplified parts in the same Dorico project.
And have two Full Score Layouts, one with the original instrument parts showing and another one with only the simplified parts showing.
This would have the advantage of having everything in one document.
Thanks for the tip, but for the project I’m working on, that won’t work for me.
Would you mind elaborating on the types of things you’d like different between parts and score? I would think that would be useful info for the developers. One example for me would be independent control between parts and score of when one bar repeats are shown vs having the music written out.
Hi @Toto23, wow, the other responses came very fast, and are similar to what I show in the video below (that I was preparing), with a suggested workflow. I post it anyway in case it could be useful to someone:
EDIT: I see now that this may not suite your needs…