Feature Requests

1st part:
While playback is active, rightclick on any other song and mark it as next to play. Also in a list of filtered songs by search box. It would be like we have in FlexLoop - when part is playing and you click on another part, you have it in different color and countdown slider indicates the time until it will start to play.

I ask this because we cannot change setlist on the fly and it is good of course.

2nd part:
Maybe it would be possible to change setlist if currently playing song is in target setlist - so after changing setlist the playback continues from that position. This would be brilliant.

Native MIDI Scale Quantizer & Smart Chord Harmonizer (Arranger Style)

Hi everyone,

I would like to propose a feature request regarding MIDI processing that I think could be incredibly useful for live keyboardists and performers using VST Live.

It would be amazing to have two native MIDI tools built directly into the track or stack settings, without the need to load heavy third-party plugins:

  1. Native MIDI Scale Quantizer / Scale Constraint: A tool (similar to Scaler 2 or Cubase’s MIDI modifiers) to lock incoming MIDI notes to a specific scale in real-time, ensuring we always play in key during a live performance.
  2. Smart Chord Harmonizer (Arranger/Workstation Style): A system where the left hand defines/triggers a chord, and when the right hand plays a single melody note, VST Live automatically harmonizes it in real-time (e.g., adding thirds, fifths, or chord voicing) based on the chord held by the left hand.

Having these features built natively into VST Live would immensely empower solo performers and keyboardists, keeping the CPU load low and the workflow seamless.

Thank you to the development team for your amazing work on VST Live!

Best regards.

Hi Steinberg Team,

I am moving my live shows from Cubase to VST Live 3, and the software is amazing. However, I have a feature request regarding song transitions in the Setlist.

Currently, songs behave as independent islands. If I want the Cue/Click track of Song 2 to start playing a few seconds before the audio/music of Song 1 completely finishes, I have to manually merge both songs into a single project file.

Doing this “merged song trick” takes away all the flexibility of rearranging the Setlist on the fly.

My Suggestion: It would be incredible to have an option in the “End Action” window to trigger the next song with a negative offset (Pre-Roll / Early Start). For example: “Start Next Song 5 seconds before current Song End”. This way, the Cues and counting of the upcoming song can overlap seamlessly with the fading tail of the previous one without breaking the Setlist structure.

Thank you for this great software!

That is amajor task we could not implement yet. For this to happen, two Songs would need to play concurrently for the overlapping time which is not only difficult to implement, but also causes double load on the system.

It is on our map, but to be honest, it will probably not be avilable soon, sorry.

I am a keyboardist and have been using Cubase for production and recording for some time now, currently 15 Pro on an M1 MacBook Pro. Recently, we started a new project, which is a mixture of live playing, backing tracks (which need to be recorded, arranged and mixed) and live vocals. My workflow is:

  1. (Cubase) Record individual tracks
  2. Arrange with the arranger track
  3. Assign tracks to group channels
  4. Mix the group channels and prepare stems (max eight groups)
  5. Export audio mixdown by stems and arranger track sections in wav.
  6. (VST Live Pro 3) Import stems as wav files into audio tracks.
  7. Prepare the parts in the track view, assign loops, start time/beat, etc.
  8. Assign each stem to individual mixer channels. The channels are already prepared for the whole setlist, they are always the same.
  9. I have been trying / struggling to use Korg NanoKontrol2 as a controller for the mixer, for Mute, Solo and possibly other purposes. I have solved some of the problems, but there is a lot to be desired on both sides.

I had a much more extensive “wish” list, to which my wife was exposed due to some colourful expletives that I had shouted out during the process, but I have managed to take the whole system up to a level that I can use on stage. However, I would love to bring up some points, which might be already in the system, that I have not been able to find.

  1. On a general note, a better integration with Cubase would be most welcome.
  • the same keyboard shortcuts, especially for those which are learned in the first few days of Cubase and never changed. (well, nice to have really, I have either defined these or learned the equivalent)
  • a better integration with the arranger track, automatically preparing the song parts, without me having to get in the way. Yes, the song track does help up to a point, but this happens after everything is prepared, and it is more or less a visual aid of where you exactly are in the
  • Even much, much better, preparing the stem audio clips in connection with the arranger track.
  • Using the same terminology
  1. A better system for markers, maybe by using marker tracks.
  2. In general, a revision of the user manual, detailing all options and why they are used (which would most probably decrease the load of this particular thread). I had to use most possible combinations of options to get the KNK2 and VLP3 to do what I needed. (I have to confess KNK2 was at least as much the reason as VLP3.)
  3. Related to (3), a more detailed video tutorial set for the latest version might be nice to have. And please make them longer, encompassing details for setup, preparation, how different sections (e.g. layers, stacks and tracks) are related to each other, and how chords and lyrics can be used in complicated songs.
  4. Can we please have the option to change the colors of individual channels in the mixer view, or at least assign the colours of the tracks/layers/stacks automatically? Playing at night in not-so-ideal lighting conditions almost require visual clues.
  5. Maybe it’s just me, but some of the plug-ins look “stripped-down” when compared to Cubase counterparts, such as sidechaining in “Compressor”. Is that the case, or do I have to do something else to use the Cubase plug-ins?
  6. Are there not FX tracks, or did I miss them completely? Do we create another track like a bus, set up insert effects, and then route this to stereo out, or something else?

All of these issues can be solved via workarounds, but the idea of a self-contained vst and backing track host which can be easily controlled via an external controller for a hybrid live/recorded show is really exciting. A hardware development such as Ableton Push is definitely too much to ask for, but scripts for commercially available pad and/or keyboard controllers might be plausible.

Thanks for listening to an old man’s ramblings…

@Guven_Ilter Thanks for your suggestions.

Just a few general thoughts:

As much as it may seem so, VST Live is NOT an extension of the Cubendo branch. The app is meant to appeal to live musicians, no matter what DAW they use to produce their songs. Users of Logic, ProTools, Fruity Loops, you name it, should feel as welcome to VL as vintage Steinberg aficionados. :smiley:

As in some areas the inner workings of VST Live differ vastly from those of Cubase/Nuendo, we have Stacks and Layers for example, it doesn’t make much sense (at least to me) to follow the structure of Cubase arrangements too closely. And, btw, in Cubase you can already export your arrangements for VST Live and as a Media Project.

As for controlling your performance via external (MIDI-)devices: You can already define nearly every action in VST Live to be triggered remotely. You simply have to set the desired actions in “Actions and Shortcuts”. If something’s missing, please let us know.
Providing scripts for each and every controller available isn’t really an option, as the needs of performers do vary vastly. My suggestion would be: Carefully assess what you want to control on stage and check if the device of your choice is capable of doing so. Then you only have to set Actions and Shortcuts once, and you’re done. :slightly_smiling_face:

Kai

As of now, VST Live does not support sidechaining. So it’s somewhat natural you don’t see that icon. Nothing you can do here at the moment. :slightly_smiling_face:

No dedicated FX Tracks, but you can create a new Out, name it, say Reverb, assign an FX to it, route the Out to Main and route any send to Reverb.

That’s already in the works. :slightly_smiling_face:

A search function in the online manual would be veeeeeeery nice :slight_smile:

Patience, young Padawan. :smiley:

Do not create an “OUT”, but a “GROUP” channel instead. “OUT” Channels go to hardware ports and neither have Sends, nor can they be routed to anything but hardware ports (Devices/Connections).

There is no significan difference between “FX Channels” and “Group Channels” (the latter also often referred to as “Aux Channels”). Insert your Fx into the Group Channel and send there. “FX Channels” (like in Cubase) are Group Channels without providing Sends by themselves, otherwise those are identical.

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to be honest @Guven_Ilter , I have no clue why are they distinguished in DAW’s at all … (FX, GRP… meanwhile it’s just simply and universally an ““Aux” and/or “Bus””)
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I would really like to finally have the option to add something like a tempo track, together with tempo detection for audio tracks. In other words, an audio file could have a specific tempo stored as information that VST Live can use — or ignore, if desired.

This would make it possible to change the tempo of a song together with its audio tracks when needed, or even create dynamic tempo changes over the course of a song.

Would it be possible to implement something like this?

Thank you very much!

You would like the audio warping with tempo changes, right? (You probably know : tempo track is available in VSTLive)

Need to know, for live performances, a CPU light algorithm might not provide the best sounding result)

Oh, I somehow haven’t been able to figure that out or find the right way to do it yet. Could you tell me what the workaround is?

For example, I’d like to have audio files that are originally at 110 BPM follow the tempo of the VST Live song. So if I change the tempo of the song in VST Live, the audio files should automatically stretch or shrink accordingly and stay in sync. Is there a way to do that?

There is no timestretch for audio in VSTL. However, MIDI tracks will follow the tempo track.

No. This isn’t another DAW that should replace your Cubase or whatever you use. This is Advanced Live Performance System. It means that everything you need on stage you prepare in studio, home studio or bedroom using the DAW you composed your songs.

If you have ritenuto/ritartando on the end of part, you have it in your mixdown of the backing track. Then one way is export DAWproject from Cubase where is your tempo track and maybe some MIDI tracks if you want them tweak live in VST Live, then import DAWproject in VST Live, import your backing audio and it will be in sync with tempo track. Simple, isn’t :wink: There are other ways.

But if you import song backings in VST Live and notice that it isn’t in good tempo, I would say that the song isn’t finished. Sorry :wink:

I don’t think anyone wants to replace their DAW with VST Live. However, it is a fact that some very basic things in VST Live don’t work well—or don’t work at all. If someone claims that the song isn’t finished, then I’m afraid I have to say that the same applies to VST Live.:wink:

That’s the point. Probably everyone would say that, but why are there constantly features requested, that kind of “cross that border”?

Not helpful and very general … name them all.

May I, please, very kindly remind all participants that this thread is labeled “Feature Requests”? :smiley:

Kai