I’ve recently transitioned from Finale to Dorico and have encountered an issue with adding multiple fingerings to violin chords. Specifically, I’m working on a passage where I need to notate a harmonic using the 4th finger on theE string and indicate the open E and 0 string beneath it.
Here’s what I’ve tried so far:
• Selected both notes (E and B) and used Shift+F to input “4,0”. Unfortunately, only the “4” appears on the A string, and the “0” for the open D string does not show up.
• I checked the engraving options in the fingering section, and everything seems to be set correctly.
• I also attempted to input the fingerings one by one for each note, but Dorico still only displays the 4th finger.
I’ve watched some tutorials and followed the steps, but I’m not getting the expected results. Is this a known limitation in Dorico, or am I possibly missing something in my workflow?
I would greatly appreciate any insights, tips, or workarounds you might have. This is a crucial part of my notation, and I’m eager to find a solution.
Thank you in advance for your help!
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I think the problem here is that you can’t add a fingering to the harmonic notehead that’s produced using the Harmonic property. This is a limitation of the fact that these noteheads are kind of magic, and are not fully real noteheads, but it’s something we should address.
I recommend you instead add the harmonic note as a regular note, rather than using the Properties panel to create it. You can right-click the notehead and change it to the appropriate diamond notehead via the Notehead submenu in the context menu.
Thanks for fast reply. But the note head not harmonic it’s normal notation even I added intervals 4th perfect to be able to add two fingers but still getting one ( natural harmonic on violin normal note with 4 and 0 in the bottom of the 4. That’s what I’m trying to write. Please what wrong I’m doing Finale can do call sticky fingers and Sibelius can do why Dorico can’t. It very simple task. Thanks again
This is a shortcoming in string fingering in Dorico. You can create a playing technique to get what you want, but can’t enter this notation in the fingering popover.
Enter a G as normal. With it selected, type Shift-F 4 Enter for the fingering. With it still selected, go to the properties panel at the bottom of the screen, find the Harmonics property (there’s a search/filter you can type into if you can’t find it), then turn on the Harmonic and set type to Natural.
You might need to drag/nudge things around in Engrave mode in order to get the 4 above the o.
Hi.
I saw many videos on YouTube, when you write shift+F the you type one finger
If you want two vertical fingers you add comma for example after Shift+F
If you type 4,0 on G note should get natural harmonics , why I have to go properties and do all this strange things you ask me to do should be more easy solution.
Please advice
Thanks
The 0 here signifies a harmonic, not a fingering or an open string.
Dorico won’t let you use multiple fingers when there’s only one note, because it’s nonsensical.
The ○ circle is a relatively modern way of notating a natural harmonic. In many older editions (19th C) the 0 (zero) is not only used for open strings, but also for natural harmonics, and very often with the actual finger that’s touching the string written above it, as in the OP’s example.
Personally, I find 0 more pleasing to the eye than ○ , but I’m not in charge of things.
You could also assign the symbol you want for a harmonic to one of the finger numbers 6-9 in the Music Symbols Editor> Fingering and then you would be able to add it as an alternative fingering in the fingering popover. whenever you want. You would type 4(7) for example if you assign it to the finger number 7.
If you are interested and want detailed instructions I would be glad to provide that. And you can control the distance between the numbers globally with a setting. Include @John_Ruggero in your response so I am notified.
@imadabeidoh Glad you like this workaround. Here are the steps:
With a Dorico file open, Go to Library>Music Symbols>Category>Fingering
From the list, select an item called “Fingering 6” or “Fingering 7” etc. that you want to reassign to the harmonic symbol of your choice. (Don’t pick one that says Fingering 6 italic or plain")
Delete the 6 or 7 that appears in the editing frame by selecting the symbol and clicking on the trashcan in the lower right hand corner.
The default Font shown is Bravura. If you want that font, leave it selected in the Font box. Now you need to find the actual symbol under “Range:” By selecting where it says "Standard accidentals etc. a long list of Bravura font categories wll appear. Go to String Techniques and those symbols will appear in the large box under “Range.” Select the harmonic symbol and click Add Glyph at the bottom right corner and the symbol will now appear in the editing frame. (If you want some other symbol, then you will need to find it in the list and do the same.)
Click the star on the bottom of the left column to turn in black. This will make this symbol your default and always be present in new files.
From now on you will be able to use the 6 or 7 etc to input a harmonic symbol in the Fingering popover.
If the harmonic symbol is accompanied by an actual finger number as in your example, you will need to enter it as an alternate fingering in the Popover like this 4(7) etc. To place the harmonic below the finger number you must set alternate fingerings to display below finger numbers. To do this go to Library>Engraving Options>Fingering>Alternative
and adjust the settings as shown here:
Now click “Save as Default” and all new files will be set up to input your harmonics.
Hope this is clear and works for you.
I would like to add that Dorico is quite adaptable to personalized preferences. For example, I use my own treble clef, many Maestro glyphs including finger numbers and many special symbols.
Thank you so much for helping me.,
I know why now why people fall in loves with **Steinberg.
I’m with music notation software since the the birth of MPP music printing plus to Finale 26 . and now im falling in love with Dorico
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