I’m getting very frustrated attempting to notate a complex piano part. In the screenshot, in measure 204, I need to add an 8ba to the first three notes of the fourth beat. It’s notated properly in measure 206, but in attampting to copy and paste the first beat of 206 into the fourth beat of 204 the 8ba disappears. Measure 204 was entered in the top stave and the notes for the left hand were dropped to the bottom stave with notations/cross staff in the edit menu, but Dorico won’t allow 8ba to be added to crossed-stave notes, and by entering the notes on the bottom stave in bar 206 it is notated properly but I can’t copy it over. This happened after jumping through hoops to get the dynamics placed properly in the preceding measure. Is there a way to make Dorico do my bidding?
Hi @dondavis, as soon as you create the 8ba for the cross-staff notes (with the popover or using the panel on the right) and the 8ba isnow “invisible”, press the move to staff below shortcut Option(Alt)+M, and the “invisible” 8ba will appear in the bottom staff.
Explanation of what is happening by creating 8va and 8ba on cross-staff notes:
Dorico creates the 8va/8ba in the staff where the note were originally created, and then not finding any note because of the cross-staff situation, doesn’t display it (but it exists in an invisible state on the original staff where the notes were created): if you now move this invisible 8va/8ba to the staff above/below, it reappears at the correct position.
Alternatively you can reset the cross-staff for those notes, create the 8va/8ba for them, then first select the 8ba and move to staff above/below, then set the cross-staff for those notes again.
EDIT: see video below:
@dondavis
Please, can you upload those couple of bar as Dorico file, to analyse what its happening? (it looks as the copied notes of bar 206 still were in your clipboard… and you pasted them. Please retry, or upload the project in the state of your first screenshot)
I’m not sure how to do that. Is there a “create new file with selection” feature somewhere?
That moves the notes. I think you need cross-stave notes which is just M.
See this very important post (#4 in particular).
M crosses the staves but then removes the 8ba.
@dondavis
Here a video with the workflow I explained above:
Hi @Janus, please see my explanation above.
And my video.
Sorry - didn’t read the whole thread!
I’m sorry if my post strikes you as impolite. To be honest I’m trying very hard to restrain my anger. I’ve been working with Dorico for several months now and I don’t see any possibility of establishing any kind of workflow. I’m working on a large orchestral project and I clearly have to return to Finale to complete it because it simply cannot be done with Dorico.
Thank you, that solved the problem.
Good.
For further information, see also this similar thread (there are several posts with important informations in there):
@dondavis
If you have any further question of what you think can not be done in Dorico, or whatever workflow problems you have, please ask.
(Assuming that the topic of this thread is solved for you, as you said.)