Is it possible in Dorico? In musescore there is settings for this.
Yes, it’s a rather weird thing, it looks kind of ugly, but for me it could be useful.
Say, as an organist I’d like to play a long Bach piece without page turns. It would be just for me, so I don’t care about aesthetic very much as long as it’s legible. In such a case every bit of space might help
In my practice I sometimes use scissors to make sheets narrower - I cut off the clefs and key signatures on the left and then also the right margins
Yes, thanks for the suggestion, I see now what you’ve meant.
I have an organ score and this works: Explicit Clef->right click on it → Clef → concert pitch → invisible clef.
But it makes a bass clef treble.
transposed pitch → invisible clef doesn’t do anything: bwv 538 imported.7z (567 KB)
Choose some instruments that hide the key signature automatically (e.g horn in F no key) to make the number of staves you want. If you create a concert pitch score, you won’t have to bother about transpositions.
Since I began using dorico I’ve found another case in which settings for hiding clefs and key signature at the beginning of staves could be useful:
reading from a smartphone screen
Dorico flexible layout system is great and you can already easily make a “smartphone ready” pdf in addition to the normal A4/letter one. (just set height:width with the same ratio as your phone screen, zero/almost zero margins, and maybe some frame breaks)
However, key signatures and clefs at the beginning of staves take a lot of valuable space and when dealing with just a piano score, for example, you basically don’t need them. (you need them only when a clef/key signature changes)
Please consider implementing settings for this. Yes, on the face it, it all might seem a little bit silly. But for me it would be very useful.
I’m adding my question here, since it seems to be related.
I want to hide the key signature and alterations from a single staff. Odd, but it is what Ludwig van does in the Timpani part of his Eroica. The part is in Eb, with only the Eb and Bb Timpani on stage.
Up to now, I’ve created an independent key signature for the Timpani (via Shift-K, Eb, and then Alt-Return). But I don’t know how to hide the key signature. Setting Opacity to zero doesn’t work.
I don’t think there’s a better solution than using the No Key Timp player.
What you can do, though, is select the first note on the timp staff, Select More a few times, then flick the Accidental switch once. It’ll probably default to “Hide”, but if it doesn’t, the relevant dropdown is just to the right.
I’m not sure what you’re after:
In some early editions of Eroica, the key signature is on the first line of the part, and then not thereafter, and the notes are the sounding pitches as if the key signature was still present (so E and B, to be understood as Eflat and Bflat).
Or there’s the first edition of the score (as found on IMSLP) which uses the old tradition, commonly seen, of writing with a void key signature (no sharps or flats) and pitches always as C and G, which in the case of Eroica, are sounding Eflat and Bflat.
The former is trickier, but there is a time-consuming manual solution. The latter is straightforward, as it acts as a normal transposing instrument.
Hang on a minute: the first edition score uses a very non-standard four-line staff at the beginning, collapsing to a three-line stave without clef after page 1. I think to save some space in a tightly engraved score. But in any case, Don’t Do That!
That’s what I did. Still, I can’t hide the key signature from that independent staff.
Since there are only two pitches in the Timpani part, this may be the quickest solution! And it works! Thank you for the hint!
I’m working with the Litolff/Dover (1880) edition, that seems to do something in the middle: no key signature, no alterations, but the nearest notes to the actual pitch. This, to prove that there are thousand ways to make things confused!
Thank you for this information! I’m curious to see if there was a practical reason for this.