Thank you whoever answer, I wanted to attach the example but there is no option. So I can describe only with words.
There is no option in the Keyscape Piano to reduce it, I asked manufacturer.
It is in the upper octaves in the slow solo piano music.
You can hear bump,bump every sound.
And this is not a cheap piano.
Thank you in advance.
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That is the sound a piano makes when the foot pedals are used. It’s an authentic sound so I would expect it in a good library… You could toll off the frequency it’s at which is probably quite low.
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Thank you for your answer.
The pedal is not used 
It is the sound of the bat hitting the string.
I wish I can upload the example…
It sounds as a pedal when you release it, but this is from the bat.
I know it is authentic, but I do not need that.
The example is “Soothing Relaxing” site, any song.
You can hear a piano perfectly but the whole sound ( in the upper octaves especially) of the bat hitting the string is completely erased somehow.
There is a ton of reverb of course on top of that so any bum bum sound that the bat makes is cut out?
I am asking if somebody knows how this composer did that.
(It is not EQ like - to cut 200Hertz which will change the timbre of the piano and it will sound artificial.
This thump thump sound is much wider in frequency.
I can cut it out completely by cutting everything below 300Hz, but the piano sound would be changed drastically.
Thank you,
Marijana
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If it’s a sample library, then the sound is what it is.
Get another sample library that sounds more like what you really want!
The only other option is to use EQ, or to use some kind of delayed gate envelope on top of it (which would also cut out the initial hit transient, but it sounds like that’s what you want.)
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I tried to cut the attack, but the more you cut the more the piano starts to sound as a flute.
So this is not doing a trick
yes, you lose the hit but you get a flute.
I really like the sound of Keyscape Wash.
I am asking this question everywhere in forums and sound engeneers on Fiverr, and I am amazed that nobody knows how to do that
But it obviously it can be done, as it can be clearly heard in the top sites for relaxing music.
Thank you anyway for your answer, I also have a professional version of Pianoteq 7 used in studios.
I will dig further…
Best Regards,
Marijana
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Have you tried narrowing the frequency down by changing the Q value to see if you can be more specific in the frequency you are cutting? I really would use a different piano if it’s causing that much problem. Are others you mention using the same piano as you?
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I tried, but the frequency is too wide, not narrow.
And I can not cut everything below 300Hz
The piano would be too thin.
I am a pianist with a perfect pitch and I can hear it very well.
This is a technical problem, but everything that anybody suggested does not work.
I have been trying for two years to cut this out. I paid like “best” sound engineers on Feverr but they did not fix it.
Of course, I can not access the top engineers in this field, who knows how much that cost.
There is a short video from my channel, so you can hear how awful this sounds… it is driving me crazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc-1XoTzIEg
Thanks again!
Marijana
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I had a listen and nothing there that bothers me but I can hear what you mean. The piano did sound quite loud and plump sounding overall so could lose some bass. I understand though it is how you want it so wish you luck in finding a solution.
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Do you have a utility like iZotope RX 8 available? Its spectral De-noise module, for example, is able to attenuate the bumping sound. Steinberg’s SpectraLayers probably offers a similar functionality. Although the quality of the YouTube audio isn’t the best, you can see the corresponding frequencies in the spectrogram. It’s quite a bit of work to lower their amplitudes, though.
I have Ozone 9 advanced, so I will experiment with that for now.
I will keep in mind iZotope RX8.
I would imagine that those pianos you hear use another piano VST / sample.
If the sound is there in the sample, then you’re going to hear it, and the best you can do is make it less audible with EQ and envelope shaping.
Anyway: Have you tried shaping the MIDI velocity? What if you play with velocity 10 or 20? You might be able to use a MIDI function to fix the velocity, or significantly subtract/divide it out from what you get from your controller.
Also: Why do you have to use this particular instrument? There are tons of other piano sample instruments out there, from free VSTs to all the ones you get with NI Komplete.
If you don’t want to spend money, google “free VST piano” and go from there.
If you want something good, audition a few paid-for sampled instruments and pick something that fits your use case better.
I like Alicias Keys. It has less hammer thump when playing it softly, but it does hammer when I hammer, just like a real piano. By comparison, another NI piano, the Maverick, has much more noticeable hammer strikes, so it pays to look for the particular sound you want in the instruments you use – you can never really “fix” something that’s already recorded into the sound.
Finally, you may be looking for something like a waveguide or other “synthetic” piano, rather than a sampled piano, if you want no hammer at all. There are tons of synths that have piano patches, and finding one that works for you is a matter of spending the time to get and audition them all.
You should hear the thump when I use my 100 year old upright. That is what make it cool.
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Thank you for your input. I will look into it.
Wish you all the best,
Marijana!
I tried Alicia, same problem in the upper octaves.
But as you suggested, I will look into synthetic pianos this might be the answer.
I have put velocity around 30-40, but did not try 10.
But I have opther problem with that, the overall volume is too low.
Even if I use Gain plugin to the max ( in Cubase).
When I upload the song to You Tube - the sound is quieter compared to other sites.
Because if the solo voice is 10-20 velocity, than the bas, pad is also low or lower than that.
So overall sound is too low.
I asked also specialist how to raise the volume, they said with the gain plugin.
But that is not enough.
I can put the song into audacity for example to make it louder, but it is not the professional way as it raise volume un equally.
This is the first lesson in the sound engineering mastering video that I bought.
“Don’t raise volume with audacity program”.
Also, there should be some compressor involved to get the notes sound more equal…
But,
there is always but :),
when I put compressor, it accentuate the sound of the bum bum, so I do not use it.
All the advices on the internet are for the pop/rock piano, and the compressor works well for the first and half of second octave (from middle C) but I use almost always second and third octave to get that “dreamy” sound.
Thank you again for your help
Best regards,
Marijana
I use American Concert D by Synthogy, it’s part of the Ivory series. It suits me perfectly and does have pedal noise, but you can dial it down to your liking. As far as hammers hitting the strings, it just sounds like a Steinway that’s beautifully recorded. I wouldn’t be mucking round with velocity on your keyboard too much, pianos require the full range otherwise they sound like crappy 8 bit stuff from 1984… Have a listen to the demos on their site, it may suit you. You should be using a weighted keyboard as well for that grand piano feel. I have an old Yamaha KX88 in my studio and an Arturia 88 for gigs (much lighter).
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Yes, I am using fully weighted keyboard.
And I have professional Pianoteq 7 used i studios.
But it is same problem more or less.
I will experiment more with microphones option for this piano.
It will take time though!
Thank you for answering and your time
Best Regards,
Marijana
No problem, I hope you get it sorted.
Good luck
Slightly decreased hammer sound (Pianoteq) then Eq-ed and soothe.2-ed
I don’t even changed my default piano sound
regards
I hear what you’re saying but listened to the sample. I think it sounds great - very authentic and very natural.
Is it possible you’re over-thinking it?
Chris
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WOW, that sounds great.
What kind of reverb is this Valhalla shimmer?
I am using Cubase.
As I am relatively a beginner would you mind sending me screenshots what you have EQ and soothed please .
I lowered hammer noise, but that still does not sound soft as yours. Mine is too heavy. Please see the attachment, the first one is Valhalla Room, other is Valhalla Shimmer.