'Holding' video/image or connecting videos between songs

Hey I’ve been scouring the message board and looking through the manual and maybe I’ve missed the thread but here we go…

Pretty much all my songs have a video backdrop to them. However the transition between songs always sends the video screen completely black (even if just for a moment) and it looks a bit ameaturish. Is there a way to default to a holding image/video between songs? Failing that is there a way to finish previous /start next with the same image so that it looks consistent between songs?

That request has already been posted by fkalmus…
Question is how to do it. All Monitors (video views)? Or one per Monitor, but where to set it…etc.

Yeah. Either is fine by me I only have the one video stream going. Even just an image like band logo that can always be in the background or something. I tend to fade out a video to the band logo, then have the band logo at the start of the next video and fade in that video. So in theory between songs there would always be the band logo displayed. As it is I cant find a way to stop it disappearing and reappearing! If you point me to fkalmus request post Ill follow it up on there. :slight_smile:

Hi @HonkyTonk ! yepp, the idea is simple but suggested some future proof concept too while that would take more time to develop.
Some “GLOBAL-module or plugin” that can put overlay to the selected VIDEO-Out. With a global module user could decide to:

  • make it permanent “hall night”
  • use transp-img (PNG) or video file (even use of looped video file)
  • fade in from black (at beginning) then fade to black (at concert END)
  • fade in / out just in cases (e.g. fade in started with a MIDI CC at song end and fade out at next song begin).

BUT I personallywould currently just practically use it as a GLOBAL permanent PNG overlay “hall night” on one single VIDEO-OUT.
While you have to know these above requires lot’s of programming work and testing.

That‘s not so much of a problem. The question is how exactly does the user tell it what exactly to do?

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True!

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When i was looking for the option I went

Edit → Preferences → Video

Hoping to find an option for ‘Display backdrop Image’ or ‘Holding image’ then a place I could point it at a file location PNG/JPEG or something that would be the default display. Default to display on all monitors but maybe a dropdown where individuals could be selected.

How to edit and display a backdrop video does sound more tricky. I went looking for a global part/layer some sort of global track or something.

An entry in devices/video backdrop would suffice, but we’d like to avoid another having to select the Monitor. So fixed Monitor 1 would suffice?

My vote would be do this later but excellently and leave the simpler solution for now. Making it in a future proof “box”, that can be developed step by step. But that is just my cent :innocent:

With a separated “GBL VIDEO MODULE”

  • there would be the place for many helpful features later
    (e.g.: Position H/V, scale, blending-mode, loop-around, play and hold last frame, fade I/O, start/stop with MIDI CC, etc)

Maybe a box to check in devices/video views for each monitor. When selected, the backdrop image is sent to’ the monitor when no other video stream is sent to the monitor…

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Ciao!

That was my first idea too. Will try that.

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You can also directly put a button to load specific backdrop image for each monitor here so you can have different backdrops if needed!

That’s what I meant :slight_smile:

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Would that be able to hold an “uninterrupted” overlay frame (transp png) “from the beginning till the end”, during song videos are played?

That’s the idea.

Maybe, again in video views, put the image selector button but also another column to switch between always show and only when no other video stream is sent to’ the monitor, to select between persistent overlay vs backdrop only when no other video streaming to the monitor!?!

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Good thinking, but that may be tricky…need to think about it.

Like so…?
Note VST Live video treats black (true black, that is rgb(0,0,0)) as transparent, so you will have to adjust it like so, it ignores alpha.

videoviewsoverlay

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WOW!

But if alpha is ignored in PNG, no feather (gradient edges) is not processed jet, right? (i have a tiny alpha mask to symulate naturalness of curtain)
How is rgb(1,1,1) handled, as nearly-black or as a less transp pixel? (how to reproc img)

I guess you would want the overlay underneath in my case so that as I fade the video out on the track in VST it reveals the logo. then I can fade up another video on top of it and it all looks seamless.