How to set up the Control Room Mixer for Cubase 6

How to set up the Control Room Mixer for Cubase 6

Edit: There is a video for this! (Thanks Bredo!):

http://youtu.be/WfPQDU-y2v0

and if the video doesn’t explain it all see below for more info:

I was unaware of this useful tool until I figured out how to do it through trial and error, the Cubase 6 Video Tutorial, and the Cubase 6 guide last night. This is my attempt at step by step instructions on how to set it up. Please feel free to correct me if I miss something, or if there is a much better way to do something that I am sure I will be missing this first try. I am currently using Cubase Version 6.0.2. The last time I upgraded the version it destroyed all my Halion Sonic settings and as I am in the middle of producing an album for the next year or so, I won’t be messing with upgrading until the album is finished.

If you are recording 1-4 people at a time for a song and need to be able to adjust the mix for them, (examples: Turn the mix down so the person can hear themselves better, or turn up the drum parts so the person can hear the rhythm better…) and instead of doing it all in the regular Cubase 6 mixer and destroying your current mix, or doing it on an external mixer and risk possibly recording a dirty signal, then the Cubase 6 Control Room Mixer is what you need.

Basically, you are creating a 2nd (or 3rd or 4th or 5th ) mixer in Cubase 6, that can have a whole separate mix from the main Cubase 6 mixer.

Although there is the possibility of setting up 4 different mixes, so you can record 4 different people at the same time, all with their own mixes of your song playing, for now this will be for the single person recording session set up. Once you get this down, it will probably be easy to figure out the rest.

  1. Open Cubase 6 and open a song you intend to record (for example sake I will say “Vocal”) a vocal on.
  2. At the top of the window choose “Devices”, then from the drop down menu choose VST Connections”
  3. Click on the “Outputs” tab, then under the Device Port column, make a note of what each device is there for later, then click on each device and choose “Not Connected”. Apparently having your audio input device still enabled here can sometimes create problems. Don’t worry, you can always add them back when you are finished recording and you want to create your main mix.
  4. Click on the “Studio” tab. Check just to the right of “Control Room:” there is a little button that should be blue. If it isn’t click on it to turn it on. This officially “Enables” Control Room. (later, when you want to go back to working with the main mixer, you should turn this off (turn it gray) thus disabling Control Room. Mainly you will want to disable it so that you can still audition your Wave files during editing when working with the Main Mixer.)
  5. Click on “Add Channel” and from the drop down menu choose “Add Studio”. In the menu that pops up, you have the option of changing the name from “Studio 1” to whatever you want, and changing the configuration from Stereo to Mono. For this example please leave it as “Studio 1”. Click “OK”
  6. In the “Device Port” column, click on the first (Left) “Not Connected” and choose your device (Probably best to go with what you have previously in the “Outputs” tab. Do the same thing for the next one (Right).
  7. Close the VST Connections – Studio window.
  8. At the top of the window choose “Devices”, then from the drop down menu choose “Control Room Mixer”.
  9. At the top of the Control Room Mixer window that pops up, make sure “AUX” is blue, near that make sure “MIX” is blue, near that make sure “AFL” is orange looking, at the bottom make sure the square button with the “1” on it is blue, and to the right of that the square with the speaker is blue. Click on these to change them if they aren’t. If you intend on using clicks when you record, click on the “CLIK” button for the Studio 1 track (so that it is not gray).
  10. Open the regular Cubase 6 mixer (Shortcut hit the F3 button on your keyboard).
  11. On the regular mixer, choose ALL the tracks that you intend to turn up or down for your recording session. I tend to click on the very first track, then scroll and then while holding down the shift key, click on the very last track, thus highlighting everything. Make sure if the “Stereo In” and “Stereo Out” tracks are highlighted that you unhighlight them by holding down the control button and clicking on each track.
  12. Click on the Mute button “M” on the main “Stereo Out” track. Then Right click on any of the high lighted tracks and choose from the drop down menu: “Link Channels”. Then choose the Mute button “M” on any of the highlighted tracks so that none of them are muted (Re mute them if the were supposed to be muted later) and only the main “Stereo Out” track is muted. If you don’t do this the regular mix will be playing on top of your studio mix, which lessons you control over the mix greatly. Right click on a highlighted track again and choose “Unlink Channels”.
  13. While all those tracks are highlighted, go back to the little “Control Room Mixer” window and right click on it. Choose “All Studios” (Or “Studio 1”, or if you had changed the name of the studio mixer when you created it, choose that new name) from the drop down box that appears and choose “Use Current Mix Levels”. This copies all your current mixing levels into the new mixer. This way you don’t have to remix everything like you had it in the main mixer in this new mixer.
  14. Still while all the main mixer tracks are highlighted, Right click on the “Control Room Mixer” window again and from the drop down menu choose “Studio 1” (or the name you created previously) and choose “Use Current Pan Settings”. This copies all your current pan settings to the new mixer.
  15. Still while all the main mixer tracks are highlighted, Right click on the “Control Room Mixer” window again and from the drop down menu choose “Studio 1” again (or whatever you previously named it) and choose “Enable Studio Sends” Make sure for any new tracks you add, that you repeat steps 13, 14 and 15.
  16. Back on the main mixer window, and YOUR left side near the top corner is 2 little arrows, 1 pointing down and 1 pointing up. Click on the up arrow so that the main mixer window expands, then click on the star that is in the black menu on YOUR left side. This is what your new mixer looks like.
  17. Make sure near the top of each track, that the power button (Little box with a circle that has a line at the top) is blue indicating it is on, and right next to it make sure the “Pre Fader” button is orange. If they aren’t click on each one to turn them on.
  18. Now that everything is all set up you are ready to record your vocalist and set the volume levels for him. Make sure all the tracks that you want to turn up or down are highlighted in the main mixer window (Excluding the track you are using to record on! Adjust that manually), then right click on the “Control Room Mixer” window and choose “Studio 1” (or whatever name you changed it to) and from the drop down menu choose “Change Studio Sends Levels”.
  19. In the “Change Studio Sends Levels” window, make sure “Relative Mode” is checked. And then adjust all your highlighted tracks at once by changing the number in the little “Level” box (default is “0.00 dB”). If you click on the number and drag your mouse up or down you can easily turn the volume up or down. Once you have the level right choose okay and all tracks will be turned up or down equally while still maintaining your basic mix AND without changing your previous mix on the main mixer.
  20. If you want to be able to change the volume or panning on a single track, go to the main mixing window, and notice near the top under the previously indicated blue power button and the orange “Pre Fader” button is a aqua blue volume line you can use to adjust the volume, and a pan line you can use to adjust the panning.


    That’s it. Have fun. This is my first try at these instructions, so I’m sure some of the experts on this forum will have lots of corrections for me. Please be sure to give me step by step instructions for your corrections as I have done above so we can make this as accurate as possible for any new comers.

Note: I like to have a little reverb in just the vocal track when recording. I notice on the main mixer it doesn’t let me add effects to what looks like the effects slots (2-4), but if I add effects to the normal inserts for that track it seems to work fine. Is there a different way to do this? (When I added the reverb to the Control Room Mixer it affected all the tracks…)

Post of the month for me. Lots of peple will appreciate this. Great work.

The control room has to be one of Cubases best unexplored features, lots just switch it on get nowhere with it then switch it off!!!

Thank you Sheldy13, great post!
:sunglasses:

“Post of the month for me.”
“The control room has to be one of Cubases best unexplored features.”

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bookmarking.

Also this: https://www.steinberg.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=18909#p118874

Agreed, nice job. And you wrote that very well I think, except for the actual choosing of the output and going into the multiple output option in some interfaces.

So I think it needs to be said that if you elect to use the CR feature AND elect to use more than one output, you will need an interface with mulitple outs. …And here I run afoul of the CR feature. Let me explain why and then you can tell me why I should use the CR feature - and I am not here to argue but learn.

#1) If I am recording a session from the start, laying tracks, I have 6 Aux Outs on my mixer that can feed 6 headphone amps in realtime - so no need for the CR. I can set levels externally on the mixer. If I want a metronome, I select the Steinberg metronome and play it back to one channel and add it to the various Aux Outs.

#2) If I have some prerecorded tracks that need to be overdubbed by by 6 players - simultainiously - I rough mix this down to 1 channel mono, feed it back into my mixer and then, once again, send it and the metronome, too, out to my players via the Aux Outs. So basically I add the full mix to the input of one channel and then adjust it’s level to the various 6 Aux Outs that are already adjusted for the players.

This seems so simple, why do I need a CR?

I am by no means an expert at this, as I am just now learning how to use the Control Room, but I can take a try at your questions:
I didn’t take into account folks that would be using a single output interface. I guess for that you would only be able to record 1 person at a time for that.

#1: I don’t think there is anything wrong with the way you are doing it, as long as you aren’t recording through your mixer, and even then as long as it’s a good quality mixer it won’t cause too much extra noise. I’m lucky enough to have an audio interface that has 8 Class A Pre-Amp inputs so I try to avoid going though anything else so I get a cleaner sound.
#2: This is also a viable way to do what you need to do, nothing wrong with this.

I think the main thing you could benefit from, by using the Control Room is if you have a situation where 1 of your players wants more drums in the mix, and another player wants less drums and another player would rather not hear the guitar, etc… You could use the Control Room to create a separate mix for up to 4 (Maybe there is a way to tweak more than 4?) different players, all while not destroying your main previous mixes.

But really, if your players aren’t that picky, and your mixer isn’t affecting your recording quality, then yeah, no reason to mess with the Control Room. :slight_smile:


Very interesting. I had just noticed that I wasn’t able to Audition normally anymore. I was able to get that function back if I disable the Control Room and reset my main outputs, but I can’t figure out how to be able to Audition using Control Room from the instructions you linked. Specifically, from my instructions on how to set up Control Room using the Studios and not the monitors, is there a way to still be able to Audition individual waves for editing? If so, please explain.

+1

Thanks Sheldy :sunglasses:

Try disabling “use phones channel as preview channel” in the preferences (control room)

Hello,

but the NOT WORKING Metronome feature has stopped

Has been fixed with Cubase 6.0.4

Some things we not recommend: During processing, not change the metronome sound, add track and record, switch during recording on metronome, while still in record mode open metronome setting sand switch from sound to beeps on the fly.

This is currently by design to keep certain processes safe.

Cheers,

Chris

Hello,

Is it supposed to work in both 32- and 64-bit versions?

Yes.

When will this fix arrive there?

The issue that had been fixed with Cubase 6.0.4 have been fixed with the Nuendo 5 updates.

Cheers,

Chris

I have 2 headphone outs on my interface, w/ independent volume controls, so as far as I can tell the only advantage to CR for me would be the mono feature (I only ever use Cubase w/ 1 or 2 people). I guess Mix6to2 can get me that mono, so as far as I can tell, CR is a reduntant feature for me?

If you think the mono button is all you´re missing, then it is like that.
My guess is you might know only a fraction of the features of the control room - but as long as you´re not missing anything everything is ok for you, isn´t it…?

Hi tc - thx for your reply. I was thinking I might be in a similar position to the poster above who felt he did not have use for the control room at home, as he worked alone there. Did you see the last character of my post, the “?” ? If you had any suggestions otherwise, they would be gratefully received.

Thanks again -

Hello alexis,


Perhaps you have a closer look for the “listen mode” of the control room.

Cheers,

Chris

Will do, Chris, thank you!

Yes, I did see the “?”, but how should I know, which features you know, and which you don´t, and even if you know them, how should I know, which ones are useful to you. Don´t expect me to tell you, what you need - cause I don´t know it.
The features can be found in the manual. And sorry I have to say it again - read it and find out what is useful for you. (or like the OP trial and error) Or ask a question for a specific feature…
If you think there´s nothing missing, then everything should be good for you.

Useful guide to to the Control Room. Good work!

Even when working alone I find it really useful, for cue mixes, monitor switching, Click routing, the Listen bus, flicking to mono, monitor level control, all sorts of things. It’s never disabled on my system. Sometimes I wish it had more studio sends available though. Yes I can get round with extra cue mixes on sends but that’s inelegant, and not as flexible.

I’ve recently, after upgrading my studios acoustics, reconfigured to have no mixing desk as for the last while it was basically just that… a desk that I put a keyboard on or my remote faders or any other thing I needed in front of me. I set up the control room with talkback channel (talkback mic to old hardware compressor) and four stereo FB lines to next door. It’s great, I love it straight from the pre amps into converters> Cubase> converters> passive volume and monitor switching>active monitors (and others) Great sound, nothing in the way thats not essential. It’s really a dream come true.