is this coming to Cubase 6 or 7?

I’ve been using these features in studio one 2 for a little while now and it is simply awesome, I want them in cubase. working with melodyne any other way is archaic now. I start songs in cubase and when the drums are all sketched out I move everything into S1. They also have a brilliant alternative to freeze but that’s for another topic.

If you need freeze on a modern computer you’re overworking the computer. More “new things to buy” won’t fix that.
If you don’t know your system’s limitations then maybe Cubase is not the tool for you. It’s a complicated DAW to run and needs more preparation rather than more tracks thrown at it.
Anyone can do hundreds of tracks but not everyone can make a few tracks sound like an orchestra plus a 500 voice gospel choir and a rock band. and they could do it some time ago on more primitive Cubase versions.
If you need all this to complete your work then you may find yourself contnuously requesting features that you end up being not happy with.
The new stuff is good but unproven yet as it’s only been out 5 minutes. Young enough to discuss but not enough to demand.

once again you’re wrong conman, but I imagine you have to be getting used to that by now. I’m not going to spend time trying to teach you about how some plugins are still ahead of cpu capabilities, because if you haven’t learned that by now then it means you’re illogical or just in denial, and I can’t be bothered with illogical people (unless I’m extremely bored) :slight_smile:

the new features have already been proven by anyone who’s been using studio one version 2, they work fantastic and have already saved us all a lot of time, and that is the proof. sorry to see you’re still so naive.

Conman,

No two people have the exact same workflow, so features that may be irrelevant to yours are imperative to others. I for one would love to see a better/refined freeze implementation and ARA technology in Cubase. The only reason why I don’t own Melodyne is exactly due to the problem ARA solves.

Also, there’s always gonna be some plugin that will bring down a system, no matter how powerful. Freezing will always be part of some people’s workflow, including mine. Others resort to computer farming solutions such as VEP, even when they have very powerful systems. So we’re still at a point where a single computer can’t handle everything one throws at it, though we’re getting there. But the point is that you can’t pretend to understand the impact each of Cubase’s features has on other people unless you understand their workflow. Plus, having better tools to get the job done faster is a good thing, right? :wink:


Take care!

Just one instance of one DCAM Synth Squad synth (with a high oversampling rate) @1024 buffer on a completely empty project can bring my computer to its knees (ASIO meter @100%)! Not to mention adding in other plugs like like FG-X, Ozone 5, Nebula, etc… IMO computer hardware still has a long way to go to catch up with the current software.

Don’t mention “workflow”. There is only work. You do it or you don’t. I do indeed know that people use Cubase in different ways but there are certain basic principles that rule over much of what we all do. One is “If it doesn’t go to eleven, don’t push it.” Common sense principles that should be used by most jobbing craftsmen which is basically what Cubase is aimed at. Not geniuses like us. :mrgreen: What I mean is don’t push too hard when you don’t need to as the original question should be enough of a push.
I try to inject some common sense when a request and discussion starts turning into demands. None of us has a “right” to any features that have not been fully developed yet.
The question is “Is it coming?” so let the answer come back before crying about perceived faults in the program. Like using it as a platform to complain about freeze.
That just ruins the “threadflow”. :mrgreen:
I actually like threads like this because I can track and trace any future potential doorstops and let someone else buy them first (like my detractors) :mrgreen: before I commit to anything I feel may get in the way of my work.

Thanks. That’s another doorstop avoided by me. :mrgreen: Software should be written for the hardware available and not the hardware to come in the next decade.

From Wiki:

“A workflow consists of a sequence of concatenated (connected) steps.”

As you can see, there is such a word :wink: . Furthermore, your stance on the matter about how much we can or cannot push our systems is your own personal opinion. Some people like to push their systems because they want to or because they have to in order to get the job done. Others avoid it, and that’s fine. But what does that have to do with anything we’re discussing here? We’re talking about workflow, yes, workflow. The features being discussed here are workflow improvements that can only benefit us in the way we go about accomplishing a task. I don’t understand why someone would oppose that. Can we get the job done without these features? Of course! But why not embrace technology and the improvements it brings to us all? If it wasn’t for it we would still be cutting tape. I sure as heck wouldn’t want to do that.

And, yes, we have some right to request features since we are the ones who pay for the software. Even more so considering all the alternatives that are out there. Just today, we all heard news about Digital Performer becoming Windows compatible. That’s one more great option that’s been added to the Windows platform. I don’t think Steinberg will want to stay behind the competition, and I don’t think they will. With every software update/release comes the decision of wether to stay with the current DAW or move to another one. Most people go with whatever gets the job done quicker based on their workflow. So you see, workflow is more important than you think :wink:

Take care!

I didn’t mention the word “workflow” I left that to others “But what does that have to do with anything we’re discussing here?” Exactly! Not much apparently. :mrgreen:
I’m not opposed to improvements or their discussion but it seems it has become a mask for general platform bashing which I find negative.
“Is it coming?” has been asked but some can’t wait for an answer for 5 minutes before bringing mythical “CPU issues” into the thread. When that happens you will see a wasted thread.
I don’t want to see this wasted as I want an answer to the question too and one won’t come if we sit here ranting.
“Workflow” is far too fashionable to be real. :mrgreen: “Work” is also in the dictionary. Since at least the 17th century whereas “workflow” only appeared in Geek Weekly :ugeek: about a year ago. :laughing:
And, it seems, a bit of realism and common sense attitude is being “in denial”. :laughing: :laughing:

I also pay for the software so I have an interest in the company not being bullied into “improvements” just because they’re in this weeks fashion gallery of “developments”. Like freeze. Who needed that except the users who had bitten off more than their system could chew?
You’ve got to admire anyone who can orchestrate things to hundreds of tracks but there is a point where reality kicks in and the engine just overheats you know. And I’m not convinced that this magic bullet will cure that as people will just up the ante and have two orchestras instead of one! :mrgreen:
And the more anyone writes taking umbrage the more I know my point is getting across. :smiley:

conman is an anti progress troll and it’s people like him that hold up progress, you can read the fear of change in his words meaning he’s probably a little older than the average cubase user, and it’s not easy to teach someone old about new things, but I gotta admit he gives me a laugh sometimes, so his posts aren’t completely without worth.

with that being said it’s not really worth it to try and correct him all the time, most people can tell pretty quick what he is, which is basically like the forum jester. As long as you don’t take him seriously he is as harmless as the kitten in his avatar.

So, is ARA coming to Cubase 6 or 7? It’s almost more out of curiosity now than anything else. :slight_smile:

LOL, you are totally right, so I’ll stop reasoning with him. However, I believe one is never too old to learn, just stubborn. Now getting back to the subject, I’d be very surprised if Steinberg manages to implement ARA by the end of Cubase 6 considering how much testing a features like this requires (unless they’ve been testing it for a while already, who knows?). If anything we may see it coming in Cubase 7 at the earliest.

I feel it`s toime for a update on the display of Cubase like they did from Cubase 5 to SX. They should make it more real looking so it looks like a real console. With good graphics. I feel Cubase needs much better graphics. Steinberg also need to listen to people regarding a 8ch controller. That touch thing is not precise enough.

So, you’re a hardware first guy … What if the hardware guys are saying “there’s no point making this faster, we can already run everything there is”

To be honest, software (games in the secular world, system modeling in the science world, porn for streaming media) have driven hardware targets, not the other way round.