Make Engrave Mode window stay in Engrave Mode

I am using two open windows, one in Write Mode and the other in Engrave Mode. The command Start Note Input applied in an active Write Mode window changes the inactive Engrave mode window to Write Mode. Is there a way to make the Engrave Mode window stay in Engrave mode?

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I don’t find that to be the case, John. I can start note input via double-clicking to show the caret, or selecting something and typing Shift+N, or clicking the corresponding toolbox button, and the Engrave mode window stays put.

Thank you very much for checking into that, @dspreadbury.

For some reason, what you describe is not the case with my setup (Dorico 5.14 Mac mini OS 12.6, dual monitors) All of the commands you mentioned in the active Write Window make the inactive Engrave window become a Write Window. None of the other editing etc. commands do this. Could there be some setting that is different? I am attaching the test file that I attached to the other post (concerning fingering). It exhibits the same behavior. Also, I should say that I am bringing up the second window by using Window>New Window, in case that has some bearing on this.

Test 2.dorico (3.2 MB)

I can’t think of any setting of preference that would have an effect on this, I’m afraid.

Thank you @dspreadbury.

Is anyone else experiencing this behavior and have they found a workaround? I noticed that the OP received two likes, so I must not be alone in having the problem. It makes using simultaneous Write and and Engrave Mode windows less efficient.

I can reproduce what @John_Ruggero describes 100% of the times.
Here’s a video recording of it:

I hope you can reproduce it now.

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Hmm, I can’t seem to reproduce that. The second window stays in Engrave for me. In fact, that’s usually how I work: landscape monitor in Write / Galley and portrait monitor in Engrave. Does it make a difference if you change this double-click setting in Preferences?

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I had it already as you showed, but also unchecking it doesn’t improve it.
Right now I can only test two windows on the same display.
Does it make any difference for you?

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No, either checked or unchecked doesn’t matter on my system. That was the only setting I could think of that might have had an impact on switching to Write. (Other than I’m on Win11.) If I leave both windows on the same monitor as in your video, it doesn’t seem to make a difference for me either.

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I am on macOS, and I know John is as well.
Problem is… Daniel is in macOS and is not seeing this…
What could that be?

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@MicheleGalvagno and @FredGUnn Thanks again for looking in to this. I also had checked on a single monitor and it made no difference. This is quite a mystery. What OS are you on? I’m on 12.6.

I usually work with both windows in Page View, but the problem under discussion also arises when the Write Window is in Galley View.

I am on macOS 14.5.

@MicheleGalvagno @FredGUnn

So much for that theory.

I just noticed something else. If two windows are in Write View and I select Start Note Input on window no. 1 and then switch to Engrave Mode on window no 2, it deactivates the Start Note Input on the window no 1. Perhaps this has something to do with the problem?

Just wanted to add that this does not happen on my Windows 10 system running the latest version of Dorico 5. Engrave Mode window stays in Engrave Mode, just checked for this thread.

Thanks for checking @Estigy

@MicheleGalvagno What version of Dorico are you using?. I’m on 5.1.40.

If I have that option (Double-click in Setup or Engrave mode switches to Write mode) OFF, then, for a single open window, double-clicking a note in Engrave mode does not switch to Write mode. If I have two windows open, and one of them is in Write mode and the other in Engrave mode, and then I double-click a note in the Write mode window, the window set to Engrave mode switches to Write mode. This does not happen the other way around - double-clicking a note in the Engrave mode window does not switch that window to Write mode while the Write mode window remains in Write mode.

Mac OS 13.6.6

Same as you.

@tbabcock123 Thank you for the confirmation that double clicking on a note in Write Mode changes the Engrave Mode window to Write Mode independent of the option you mentioned.

Thanks @MicheleGalvagno

Hi Folks,

I have found that if you activate the “Select” arrow before activating the caret (so deactivating mouse input, and using the letters or a MIDI keyboard for the pitches input) has the nice effect that the second window stays in Engrave mode.

You can also set a Preference to always activate the Select arrow (not allowing note input with the mouse):

Here a demonstration short video that shows under what circumstances it works (first with Select not active, that causes the switch back to Engrave mode in second window as you Start note input, and then with Select active, that let the second windows stay in Engrave mode as you Start note input):

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