Microtonal accidentals in cues

Dorico
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I tried a sligthly different method and wonder if it is expedient or if it could be optimized.
In a trio

  • triplicate the players
  • move their (new) instruments to the original players
  • (rename the original players/erase the new additions in their names)
  • define cues at the respective points in the parts’ gallery view

However, for some reason, I get slight discrepencies of microtonal accidentals in some cue notes; I guess this is a bug and has nothing to do with the method since the problem occurs also with the method described above. I would be interested in your opinion.

Score:

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Part:
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I don’t have time to construct this sort of scenario from scratch. I’d be more than happy to look at an actual project, though.

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I would be happy to send you the document - may I?

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Sure. I’m due on stage in 10 mins but can take a look later today…

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Can I send it without posting it publicly? Via eMail?

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If the file is not too large, one can attach it to a PM by clicking on a user’s avatar/name and using the message button.

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You can private message me, as Derrek said, or it’s [redacted].

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Having taken a look at the project I think the problem is that your 24-EDO tonality system still contains a whole bunch of accidentals that alter the note by the same interval.

For instance, all three of these accidentals lower the note by a quarter-tone:

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The default 24-EDO tonality system won’t let you remove default accidentals, but if you create a copy of that tonality system (there actually already seems to be one in your project), then remove the duplicate/triplicates, then reapply the key signature so that it references the correct tonality system, Dorico will be consistent in its enharmonic spellings.

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I will try, thank you, this is really hardcore stuff for a beginner like me :flushed:

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I have a problem with a piece containing a quartertone-flat natural accidental: for some reason this natural is changed to a quarter-tone flat-flat accidental in the cue notes of the parts (and only there). Changing the microtonal key did not help.
score = correct:

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part = wrong:
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The staves of Vc.2 and Vc.3 in the part are cue-staves.
Is this a bug?

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Please don’t post the same thing in multiple threads. For anyone reading (and I have already recommended privately that you reach out to @dspreadbury ) we’ve already had this discussion in this thread: Portions of full score in parts? - #10

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I’ve now moved this to a new thread, combining the posts from both of the older threads that @lim.usic had posted in.

I think the issue here is that although you can override the spelling of notes in a cue in Engrave mode, you can’t choose a specific accidental, because of course there’s no way to do so in Engrave mode. I need to look into this further, which I will do when I get a chance.

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Hello! Was this issue ever resolved? I’m currently having the same problem, and I’m curious if there’s an easy way to fix it. I’m worried about creating a new key with fewer duplicate spellings in case that would interfere with other quarter tone accidentals used elsewhere.

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Welcome to the forum, Joseph. I’m afraid we’ve not made any changes in this area since last year, no. The issue of which microtonal accidentals will appear when the transposition differs between the source and destination instruments is not yet resolved.