Midi Parts Library!

The heart of Cubase is arguably the Midi Part/Event in the arrangement window (the blocks containing events to be more specific). They have from early versions been the feature that set Cubase apart.

Sadly though the parts have little or no global management features that work seamlessly with the MediaBay, how many times have we ended up with complex arrangements with hoards of parts that become unwieldy and frustrating even to manage.

Solution
It is simply the ability to drag and drop midi parts to and from the media bay, that’s it! So these ‘parts’ can be organized into libraries and folders for recall later (in that project OR any other).

Midi Parts Library

They should retain their ghost/real status so that changes to the part in the arrangement window changes all parts in the library.

Why?

  • Sometimes we have fantastic parts I want to recall easily (once again Steinberg seemed to have introduced a feature with midi loops and left it ‘incomplete’)
  • We want to declutter an arrangement full of ideas I don’t want to lose but have become an eyesore
  • We can drag samples from the media bay why not ‘parts’
  • We could build up fantastic libraries for easy recall

For something so key to Cubase’s MO I am surprised and a little frustrated it hasn’t been done, way before now.

It’s been the biggest temptation for me to leave and boy what I wouldn’t do for this feature.

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You know what- that drag and drop feature made it into Cubase a few years ago for a minute, and was removed.

Exporting midi loops is what we have, so one can save phrases, etc, and organize them, but no easy drag and drop, which would be really cool.

Hope you don’t mind, I removed the Cubase 10 tag, since that version won’t be getting any mor new features.

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We could also save sounds from external synthesizers in the form of sysex dumps within parts and organize them in the media bay.

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I had posted a similar/same idea not too long ago

New Right-Zone/Media Category Utility: PARTS (In Current Project) - Cubase - Steinberg Forums

I would also like to see ‘Automation Events’

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You know what- that drag and drop feature made it into Cubase a few years ago for a minute, and was removed.

ikr… go figure

why oh why did they have it then it!

Exporting midi loops is what we have, so one can save phrases, etc, and organize them, but no easy drag and drop, which would be really cool.

Thanks, yes I thought that to but as you know it’s an incomplete solution that’s riddled with limitations.

Hope you don’t mind, I removed the Cubase 10 tag, since that version won’t be getting any mor new features.

No worries.

We could also save sounds from external synthesizers in the form of sysex dumps within parts and organize them in the media bay.

This also is a worthy idea.

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Thanks for the heads-up. The whole thing feels like a bit of a big miss for Steinberg. Love the automation idea too.

Just had a look at your post, well done @LoveGames

I dislike this voting system, but I’ve used one precious vote on your post anyway.

This would actually be REALLY USEFUL. And also the same with audio. So if you have bounced a great audio part you could open the right zone media bay and go to a category section, and just drag and from that audio file straight into it. Currently it’s a whole rigmarole to do that I don’t bother which is a real pain.

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+1

In one sense things like this are almost intrinsically essential to our standard workflow.

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Actually you can drag and drop a MIDI Part onto the Windows Desktop or File Explorer and back again. But alas not Media Bay.

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Thanks. This too is some helpful input for others also interested too. Makes one wonder why implement it for the desktop but not the media bay? I only hope they’re listening.

Anyway cheers.

Well with the desktop it only needs to create a very standardized MIDI file. Plus it is using drag and drop to basically execute the existing Export MIDI function.

But things in Media Bay tend to have a lot of metadata attached so it might simply be more complicated to sort out.

I’m not at my DAW to verify. But it seems you could store your MIDI files in Windows Folders arranged however makes sense. Then in Media Bay if you configured it to index those Folders the MIDI files would be available in Media Bay. Basically create it in Windows (or Mac) but access it from Media Bay.

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It’s easy to create a database in Mediabay of libraries and folders, or whatever organization method one might like.

  • …midi files and midi loops show up in and can be dragged from mediabay, they just can’t be dragged to mediabay.

  • I think the only thing being asked for really, is the ability to drag and drop to mediabay.

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Cheers.

This is a at least a step to some of the problem. Though as flagged by others it lacks the elegance of a comprehensive (two way) drag and drop and further as you have mentioned also it’s not storing part data as it is indeed simple midi files. So we lose the real/copy metadata.

Thanks @steve, that’s correct and I already have this library of midi files.

It’s just a little baffling that the feature was there, in previous versions, then summarily removed.

In part though as mentioned to @raino it’s missing:

  • the ability to retain key metadata like real/copy status
  • automation
  • etc,

But it is as they say I guess this is better than absolutely nothing.

It would be nice to see more things like this. You can drag MIDI part to Logic Pro X timeline too. Unfortunately not working in the other direction but thats not Cubase fault.

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This is all provided by midiloops though. (Midiloops aren’t really loops at all.)

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Not quite.

As per my post it is in regard to retention of real/copy status and ability to drag and drop and to retain their ghost/real status so that changes to the part in the arrangement window changes all parts in the library.

I couldn’t quite even get real/copy status to work with midi loops. Midi loops may be yet another example of a Steinberg solution that had potential but apparently got left behind.

May have misunderstood this, but you can drag midi files to and from Cubase.

It’s the inability to do it through the MediaBay which is my frustration.