Missing VST3s

Antonio_Freixas · December 31, 2022, 3:33pm

I was trying to create Expression Maps for my Audio Modeling instruments.

When I go to select VSTs, I get this:

If I look in C:\Program Files\Common Files\VST3\SWAM\Flutes, however, I see this:

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Note that SWAM Piccolo 3 is missing.

If I look in the application log file, it includes this:

2022-12-31 06:59:38.965 [info] Detected instrument: =>Audio Modeling
2022-12-31 06:59:38.966 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Alto Flute 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.968 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Alto Sax 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.969 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Baritone Sax 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.970 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Bass Clarinet 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.971 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Bass Flute 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.973 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Bass Tuba
2022-12-31 06:59:38.974 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Bassoon 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.975 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Cello 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.976 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Clarinet 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.978 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Contrabassoon 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.979 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM English Horn 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.980 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Euphonium
2022-12-31 06:59:38.981 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Flute 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.982 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM French Horn Bb
2022-12-31 06:59:38.983 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM French Horn F
2022-12-31 06:59:38.984 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Oboe 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.986 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Piccolo 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.987 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Soprano Sax 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.988 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Tenor Sax 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.989 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Tuba Eb
2022-12-31 06:59:38.991 [info] Detected instrument: SWAM Violin 3
2022-12-31 06:59:38.992 [info] Detected instrument: <=Audio Modeling

A number of instruments were detected, but do not display, everything after SWAM Flute 3.

If I look in VstPlugInfoV4.xml, I see:

  ...
  <obj class="VstPlugInfo" ID="92720880">
     <int name="Number of Input Busses" value="0"/>
     <int name="Number of Output Busses" value="0"/>
     <int name="Input Speaker Arrangement" value="0"/>
     <int name="Output Speaker Arrangement" value="0"/>
     <int name="Latency" value="0"/>
     <int name="Side chain input busses" value="0"/>
     <int name="Flags" value="0"/>
     <string name="uid" value="565354574666337377616D20666C7574"/>
     <string name="name" value="SWAM Flute 3" wide="true"/>
  </obj>
  <obj class="VstPlugInfo" ID="92721216">
     <int name="Number of Input Busses" value="0"/>
     <int name="Number of Output Busses" value="0"/>
     <int name="Input Speaker Arrangement" value="0"/>
     <int name="Output Speaker Arrangement" value="0"/>
     <int name="Latency" value="0"/>
     <int name="Side chain input busses" value="0"/>
     <int name="Flags" value="0"/>
     <string name="uid" value="565354574670337377616D2070696363"/>
     <string name="name" value="SWAM Piccolo 3" wide="true"/>
  </obj>
   ...

It looks like the system knows about the missing instruments. I sure hope that Dorico didn’t place a limit on the number of VSTs that can be displayed under one category.

By the way, I did do a re-scan. This caused me to lose NotePerformer (see Noteperformer Timeout on Dorico 4.2 - Windows), so now I have two problems. I blacklisted all the VST2 versions of the instruments, in case that was an issue, but these are all VST3s, which I don’t believe can be blacklisted. I’ve also tried it with the VST2 versions allowed—no luck.

mducharme · December 31, 2022, 3:43pm

Have you tried scrolling down? Some windows in Dorico have scrolling but do not make it obvious, and I see that you are only seeing the first group of instruments in alphabetical order and nothing later in the alphabet.

Antonio_Freixas · December 31, 2022, 4:11pm

Thanks! That was it.

The scrolling function is not obvious—you have to click and drag on a viewable VST. When the drag ends, the menu disappears, but if you click to bring it up again, it retains the scrolled position so that the missing VSTs can now be selected.

The widget used to display VSTs needs work. If one needs to scroll, there should be a scroll bar. For menus, some people use up and down buttons. Also, when one clicks on a category, the expectation is that a new menu will pop up with the sub-entries, not that the menu disappears, with the sub-entries visible the next time the menu is viewed.

Now I have to restore NotePerformer…