Multi-bar Rest issue

[Thurisaz]

Hello Dorico team and fellow colleagues,
I’m having an issue with the multi-bar rests. The feature is activated in the Layout Options, and for some bars it works, for some - not.
Nothing is inserted, or hidden in the empty bars…

I would be thankful if someone is able to assist me.

Best wishes,
Thurisaz

[Janus]

There will be something spanning that area. Perhaps a hidden dynamic?

[StevenJones01]

Try deleting the accel. poco a poco…. at bar 237, and see if the following bars consolidate into a multi-bar rest. If that happens it is possible that, somewhere before bar 201, there might be a gradual tempo marking (or dynamic eg cresc. or dim.) which has somehow had its extension line extended for many bars and also hidden. If you would like to post a cut-down version of the project which still demonstrates the problem, I am quite happy to examine it.

[Thurisaz]

Hi @StevenJones01 and @Janus,
There are cresc poco a poco markings but without any extension lines.
I’ve tried to delete them all and the accelerando, too…
The problem is still there.
No hidden objects are involved, That’s why I don’t know where the problem is?!

[Janus]

Can you upload this section of the project?

[StevenJones01]

Have you tried selecting all those bars of rest (you might need to use the System Track) and pressing Delete? If there is something else hidden, then that might get rid of it.

[PjotrB]

I see lyrics in the bottom right corner, so this must be for (women’s) choir. Check the length of the syllable under the long notes in the upper left. My guess is you may have hit the space bar to continue lyric entry after the rests, but now the last syllable in the upper left behaves as if it must be held until the sopranos start singing Ма-ри-…

[StevenJones01]

There was a thread in April 2022 where I was able to help with the troubleshooting. The issue there was that a pedal marking had somehow become hidden. The way to find it was to select the problem bar(s) using the System Track and press alt-shift-left arrow. That brought it into view.

How do I consolidate multi-bar rests?

Dorico is separating this 17-bar rest into three groups, but I don’t want that. I want to start with a single, 17-bar rest. Why does Dorico insist upon separating these? And how do I fix it? (Note: I’ve skimmed other posts on this topic, most of which relate to disabling condensing. But condensing is already disabled in my project, so I remain baffled.) [Screen Shot 2022-04-11 at 4.18.14 pm]

[Janus]

@PjotrB

but now the last syllable in the upper left behaves as if it must be held until the sopranos start singing

But would that explain the successful multi rests just prior to the vocal re-entry?

[PjotrB]

@Janus

But would that explain the successful multi rests

You’re right, I over-simplified. But still, there may be a lyric lasting way longer than the note it’s attached to.
Lyrics have their own rhythmic value and position. They behave a bit like an independent voice.

[Thurisaz]

Thank you all for the assistance!
It was the syllable long line, as mentioned by @PjotrB
It should be stopped before the last note of the phrase in order not influence the normal multi-bar rest… weird?!
This should be fixed. It should be possible to extend the line to the very last note of the phrase without affecting the multi-bar rest behavior.

Greetings and Thank you all once again!
Thurisaz