Placing the new clip volume fader at the bottom left of a clip is not a good spot for that in my opinion. That is also the same area you need to click to adjust the size of the clip. I am constantly accidentally adjusting the clip gain while trying to edit the boundary. The old way caused far less editing mistakes.
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Why donāt you just turn it off?
There are alternatives in place by now. You can adjust the settings pretty much to taste and if you get accustumed to the new range tool functions you might be happy with how things are now.
Thanks for that, but it still doesnāt quite solve the problem. It does for the editing boundaries however, in previous versions I used the handle at the top of the region and would like to still have a way available on the clip just not right next to the other editing tools.
Hold these modifiers while hovering over the event with the Selection tool:
This lets you change event gain from anywhere on the event.
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Sorry, some nice ideias here butā¦no. It doesnāt work for me at all! I need the white volume square litlle botom in the center of the clip. How can I bring it back? Nuendo WAS the best for classic music edition! Donāt change such a important tool. Was there since theā¦,well for me, if I am not mistaken, from version 1.02 of Nuendo. So, there are things that shouldāt be touchedā¦ can I have it back please? For now, I have to go back to Nuendo 13ā¦ my bad, already spent money on the 14 update
As an option - use the range tool and double click the event, then youāll get the handle at the top, just like before. But I encourage you to get used to this new way of working. It wonāt take long! And itās much much much better than the old way in my opinion.
Yes sir. Right away sir!
- Ghost of Charlie Steinberg
Thank you Robl,
i do many hours of classic music audio edition, mtk edition for this kind of pourpose, it makes difference btw the way it was and how itās now.
I will go bck to my previous version.
Thankx anyway
I donāt know who you are, butā¦ you like to treat people like royalty, donāt you? You donāt need to do this. Just bring solutions if you have them. If you donāt have solutions to bring here, avoid calling someone SIR just for funā¦
Since 2001, weāve kept people with that approach away from the professionals hereā¦ we had some funny people back thenā¦
You do as you please. But I can assure you the new way of working would help a lot in your case with classical recordings too. For example, you no longer have to split long events in order to change the gain of a certain portion of it. Just select what you want to edit with the range tool (not the select tool), and drag the handle up or down. If you want to make a ramp or fade in the selected range, simply switch to the pencil tool.
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I gave you solutions already. Yet you still stamp your feet and refuse to implement them. I thought some sarcasm might wake you up. No one is bringing back your little handle that you got used to.
Graveley, i didnāt pay for sarcasm. I paid for a Nuendo update and, i had to learn again how to work on it, because of a sudden, itās not the same machine on very basic functions. This one, i think is there since version 1.02 of Nuendo. I could be mistakenā¦ or was the 1.53?
So, since you are so sure about me stamping my feet and not wanting to go your way, (this new way), you may want to āwake me up againā and show me a better wayā¦
Supposing I have to cut and paste note by note (i do it constantly), crossfade between the clips to change the volume, taking advantage of the result of the sum to respect the āairā and the Violin bow, adjusting the maximum positive and max. negative of the wave between clips when they merge, having to be able to observe the volume at which the edited clips are to adjust other clips to be edited. I could do it because the volume line was always there! How can i see in a blick of an eye all the clips with volume changes? Do I have to hover the mouse over the clip to display the volume value ? And if the clips are really narrow (bacause they are), do I have horizontal zoom them to be able to read the value? How can this be better than the option that existed for 24 years before this version?
āNo one is bringing back your little handle that you got used to.ā That little handle that made Nuendo the best audio edition DAW, since 2001? The one I teached and made so many people change from protools to Nuendo?
Iām open-minded to see what solutions you can come up with!
Cheers!
Hi RobL, thank you for posting. I do understand what you mean. I also work with other DAWs. What you describe, work fine for easy audio edition work. I fourtunately need to split long events. I actualy, never work with long events, only with very short ones. I ensure you, I know what you meanā¦ I just need it really the way it was. No problem, I still have a DAW that works fine for that but, its definately not the version 14 of Nuendo, unfourtunately. Letās see if thereās a way of doing it. Iāll see if I can find out in the properties a way that allows me to have a solution similar to what existed. The problem is time. I donāt even have time to stop knowing how to work with a program that I once knew well, nor to come to the forum every day to look for solutions (if there are any for this case) otherwise, itās okay, Nuendo itās just a working tool and Iāll stick with the version that solves my problems. This version does not.
āYou do as you pleaseā noā¦ I will do the way i need to be able to work the way i did because itās just better! That is why i never went away from Nuendo as my main DAW. I am now disapointed, i must confessā¦ i would like to keep on and move to Version 14. Like this, will be difficuldā¦
Cheers
Of doing what?
@Studio2projects sorry but from your description itās not particularly clear how you were using the old volume handle. Without a clear step-by-step description it will be difficult to suggest the equivalent technique with the new system.
P.S.
It is extremely unlikely that the old handle will ever come back. AFAIK the new system was implemented by popular request.
Stingray,
how can i share 2 fotos here? A picture says more than 1000 wordsā¦
Cheers
You can paste a screenshot from the clipboard directly into a message. Cmd + V. Dragānādrop might work, too.
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I didnāt searched for a difficult one. Just a easy project, light edited. You can all see the differences. Knowing where i changed volume, just a mouse click away from knowing how much i changed volume, being able to easily find the changed clipsā¦
I really hope this explains why all those white INFO volume lines are very important, at least to me. I do understand that, this feature is away and will not be coming back since was implemented by popular requestā¦ oh well!
Thereās a preference for that, no? That can be set to always show them? Or am I misremembering that (Iām still on v13).
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MattiasNYC, thank you for your post.
I wished! Nopeā¦ in NU14 itās away.
@Studio2projects the disadvantage of the old system was that the white line is NOT visible for those events where you have applied gain above 0dB. The white line disappears in this case which was a major flaw of the old system. Also, the white line itself did not provide a particularly accurate indication of gain applied to the eventā¦ it was just a rough guide.
In the new system, there are two elements which control the event volume: the event volume control (lower left corner) and the event volume curve (shown as a white line).
Event Volume Control
The event volume control value in dB is displayed at the lower left corner of the event only for those events where the event volume has been changed. If no value is shown it means that no event volume has been applied. The visibility of the event volume control is set in Preferences>Event Display>Audio>Show Event Volume Control.
Event Volume Curve
If you insist upon seeing a white line on the event, you can achieve this in v14 easily using the event volume curve instead. There are two methods as follows:
- select the Pencil tool and click once on the event to show the volume curve. Click a second time to create a single handle on the line. You can now drag this line up or down using the Pencil tool on the handle. The line is initially displayed along the mid height of the event.
- double-click on the event with the Range Selection tool. When the event is selected a handle appears at the top centre of the event. Click and drag up or down on this handle to change the event volume curve. You will see the white line move up or down. This second option is probably the closest to the old behaviour.
You can set the visibility of the white line of the event volume curve in Preferences>Event Display>Audio>Show Event Volume Curve. If you want to see the white line all the time set this to āAlwaysā.