Sorry, but Percussion Maps are really not my thing! Hopefully one of the many forum experts will chime in.
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Yep, still no sound. Been at it for hours. The only way I can get it to play is when I set up a 5 lined stave and utilize the entire range of the keyboard bypassing the use of a Percussion map. I believe my setup to be correct. The one area I wasn’t quite sure with was the roll sound. At first I indicated roll in techniques, then tried one with Trem to see if there was a diff. none. Neither played the sample.
I think you’ve got the percussion map the other way round. I don’t know the instrument you’re using, but chances are that the three sounds you need are not triggered by C-1, C#-1 and D-1. What you need to do is describe which MIDI key (number or Note Name, but beware the problem with middle C, C3? C4?) triggers which sound in your VSTi. Dorico is semantic, which means what matters for Dorico is the Instrument and the Playback technique associated. When you write a note for that instrument that will have that playback technique, Dorico uses the percussion map to trigger the appropriate sample in your VSTi. Usually, the information you need is in the VSTi user guide. Or on the GUI…
Hope it helps.
Hmmm, I’m more confused now Marc. If I play a Gong hit on C-1, do I not then assign that key and sample to C-1? I did try to move it up the octave to C-2 just to see if the guide was off by an octave. This should not be difficult. I personally feel that the percussion map set up should be sufficient by aligning the corresponding notes/sounds/samples with their given placement on the keyboard. If a hit is C-1, that’s where I want to map it in the percussion map. Why would one want this any different? Seems simple enough.
So, lets take a step back. I want to set up my clash cymbal map utilizing iconica sketch clash cymbals. I like the china cymbal sound triggered on D#2. (perhaps the program thinks it’s D#3). moving on, I assign a name and call it China Cymbal, inst-China Cymbal,Playback technique natural. The sample playback is a standard Piatti/crash hit and not the directed china cymbal key. Where did I go wrong? Do I now have to look up a separate user guide for each library?
Sorry, now I’m confused. I read a little bit more (sorry, this thread is too long so I just flew over it) and I see you’re using HSO Tam-Tam? So I tried, using the HSO+whatever playback template, and here’s the Tam-tam percussion map:
This means that HSO has only two samples for that instrument, and they are triggered by C2 and C5. So I don’t know what that Accent sound was… nor why your MIDI notes are different from the factory percussion map.
Ok, I think I get it. You’re totally skipping the fact that Dorico is semantic. So you want to trigger a Gong sound on a Tam-tam staff. Ok, so you need to create your own custom percussion map to fool Dorico on which instrument plays what.
Here’s the iconica Sketch percussion map (excerpt), D#2 is a Tam-Tam hit, not a clash cymbal…
I know it’s not easy to grasp the way Dorico works with percussion, because… it’s probably very different from what the others do. There’s not a direct connection between the note and the sound, it uses the name, the technique, to call for the appropriate sound. The real benefit of this is that you can start using one library, and change the library, and providing all percussion maps are accurate and all sounds are available in those libraries, Dorico will call the appropriate sounds, no matter which library you’re using.
Hi Marc,
I went away from the Tam-Tam setup for now since I was using the True Strike samples from that library. I realize there may be some folks who may be unfamiliar with that library and wanted to choose something more familiar. That’s when I went and tried a new Percussion Map for my Clash Cymbals from the Iconica Sketch library which I loaded in my NPPBE. I thought I had everything is set up correctly, but I’m not going about this the right way.
Just to get things going, I have assigned two sounds. The only sound that plays is the Piatti/clash cymbal hit. The small china cymbal hit sample does not play, even if I indicate (china cymbal) in the score. I even tried changing a notehead to a diamond shape, thinking Dorico might just send that sound to the new notehead. I’ve played around with the assignments, D#2,D#3 etc… to see if the keyboard mapping was different. Still no sound with the other instrument. I’m sure I’m missing a crucial step here. I did try to look for VSTi info on iconica sketch mapping, but am unclear where to find this? I really appreciate your help Marc and those of you who have chimed in over the past couple of days. I’m happy to share this file with you if this will help?
I’m sorry, I know nothing about True Strike (and apparently, there’s no way to access to a user guide, at least on their site… Even Spitfire makes this available 
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so I’m afraid I cannot help you further — the steps here are simple but very precise.
Regarding your diamond headnotes, how did you change them? Have you used the Percussion techniques editor, added a technique (playing technique that triggers a playback technique) and attributed the diamond notehead (that is the way to go) or have you just changed the notehead in the notation (which has absolutely zero effect on playback)?
I can really sense the frustration, but I want to thank you (all) for sticking with this issue. I think this thread is potentially really helpful for other users who might be struggling in this area.
We’re seeing a “real world” example of a user experience here, and I’m rooting for a positive outcome, and hoping a great deal of clarity can emerge in the area of percussion notation/playback in Dorico.
Marc,
I will head back to this a little later today and take another look. I’m sorry that I’m having such a hard time getting my head wrapped around this. I see what you are saying about Doricos logic assigning destination endpoints for mapping. However, with the many of us who have spent years working with control switches, keys, c-1, d-2…etc, it was a fast way to locate one’s sound and have the hosting synth point to that note (once assigned) to simply trigger that effect. There are potentially hundreds of samples one can use per instrument and wonder how much unwanted time has to be spent setting all of this up to trigger a brush stroke, scrape,hit,roll,tremolo, effect…
As I tried setting (what I thought was correct) up my percussion map the first 4x, I made sure to enter in text that Dorico would logically make sense per technique. Roll, term, accent, natural… but to no effect.
I tried making things very simple. Find one Tam or Cymbal hit, assign it, name it, hit apply…. Nothing.
I also know that at some point (hopefully soon) I will figure this all out, a lightbulb will come on, and I’ll be like , “duh”!! This was so obvious to begin with. Lol
Sorry everyone. I just want to compose my dumbass piece and hear these lovely percussion sounds in all their glory. 
Thank you Marc, thank you everyone for all your patience with me. I’m also hoping this will leads to a simple resolve and open the door for others who may be struggling with this too.
Best,
T
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No problem T. What would help to help you would be a screenshot of your instrument, of its mapping (if available) so that we can start building a working perc map up. I tried to find that on their website but could not find it.
Hi Marc,
Yes, you are correct. There isn’t anything on their website for mapping. I can only provide key by key playing samples. Like short roll c#1 , large dampened hit c1 and so forth. Should I go this route? I realize that their c3 vs Dorico c4 may have to be adjusted.
T
Did True Strike provide a manual, printed or otherwise, that would have a table of MIDI notes and sounds that one could post here?
I just wrote support at project Sam , to see if there is a manual with mapping. I have not found it yet. I’m only able to provide sample designations per key by key . C1=Tam hit, C2= short roll… and so forth. Perhaps this is where I’m really messed up?
Derrek,
After looking through my own manual and looking online, there doesn’t seem to be one that has that info. Does this mean we can not move forward with mapping?
Bummer!
I’m surprised the software publisher doesn’t tell its users such basic info. I hope you get a response from them.
How do you know the pitches for the sounds you have quoted?
Morning Marc,
I did not find any mapping or detailed info in the TS manual. I myself created the following mapping below. It took a bit, but this is what I came up with by creating my own visual mapping based on the setup of the samples to keys provided in the player. ( I will also attach a pdf).
TS tam and wind gong mapping.pdf (20.6 KB)
C1 TAM HIT F DAMP
C#1 TAM HIT MF RING
D1 WIND GONG HIT FF DAMP
D#1 WIND GONG HIT MF DAMP
E1 WIND GONG MULTIPLE HITS F
F#1 TAM LONG CRESC. F
G1 TAM SOFT LONG TREM
G#1 TAM MEDIUM CRESC. F
A1 TAM MEDIUM CRESC MF
A#1 TAM SHORT CRESC. RING
B1 TAM MED CRESC RING
C2 TAM MEDIUM CRESC F DAMP
C#2 TAM SHORT CRESC F DAMP
D2 TAM STICK OFF CENTER F
D#2 TAM STICK OFF CENTER MP
E2 TAM HIT WITH SCRAPE MF
F2 TAM HIT WITH SCRAPE OUTTER RIM
F#2 TAM STICK LONG SCRAPE CRESC
G2 WIND GONG STICK SHORT SCRAPE CRESC
G#2 TAM STICK SHORT SCRAPE CRESC
A2 WIND GONG BOWED
A#2 WIND GONG BOWED CRESC.
B2 WIND GONG DOUBLE BOW EFFECT
C3 WIND GONG HIT F SHORT RING
C#3 WIND GONG HIT MP SHORT RING
D3 WG HIT F DAMP
D#3 WG HIT F DAMP VERS 2
E3 WG MULTIPLE HITS F
F#3 WG LONG CRESC F
G3 WG TREM MF
G#3 WG MEDIUM CRESC F RING
A3 WG SHORT CRESC MP RING
A#3 WG SHORT CRESC F RING
B3 WG SHORT CRESC MP RING
C4 WG SHORT CRESC F DAMP
C#4 WG SHORT CRESC F DAMP VERS 2
D4 WG BOWED OUTTER RIM MF
D#4 WG DOUBLE BOW OUTTER RIM MF
E4 WG QUICK BOW CRESC MF
F4 WG STICK SWIRL EFFECT
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Great work (although it was up to Project SAM to provide such information)
So I guess you were right about the keys you programmed earlier in your 3-lines-percussion map. When you write a tam-tam hit on your tam-tam staff (with your percussion map applied to the Project SAM vsti and your tam-tam routed correctly to that vsti), Dorico will trigger C#-1 (tam-tam instrument, natural technique). If you don’t hear anything, something is not routed correctly somewhere. If you hear another sound, it’s probably a C3/C4 problem (you’ll quickly know this). Tell us how it goes for you 
Hi Marc,
Yeah, no go on my end so far. I even went ahead and (just to test things out) assigned a Tam hit to all C1-C2-C3 and so forth, just to see if I could hear something. Nothing. Am I going wrong somewhere else , like expression mapping? Do I have to do something special there or just set to default?
T
My main suspicion is that something is wrong in the routing… Could you share a minimum file, so that we can check this out?