As all of you know, Steinberg is offering a low cost upgrade to Nuendo for existing Cubase owners.
I have a few questions that I hope some of you may have answers to.
First, for those of us that do not do any video post production work, is there any real benefit to use Nuendo over Cubase?
Second, if one crossgrades to Nuendo, do we lose the use of Cubase or do both coexist alongside each other?
Lastly, if one installs Nuendo, assuming that we do not lose use of Cubase, does Nuendo install all its content, including all the same content that both Nuendo and Cubase utilize…such as plugins, etc., or does Nuendo install only the content unique to Nuendo and utilize the content shared with Cubase that is already installed?
Yes. But what’s the REAL benefit? If you end up wanting to update both in the future, which is a significant outlay. It’s true that Nuendo came out later, and it’s said to be considerably more stable than Cubase… In my opinion, I think Nuendo is only interesting if you’re thinking of doing the type of work Nuendo is focused on. If you only record and mix music, I don’t see the need to change.
This is interesting when did this happen? Is that new? Also would anyone know if that;s backwards as well, can Nuendo users use Cubase now with a Nuendo License? That would be nice since it does come out before so would be nice to have the new features ahead of Nuendo.
okay but whats the upgrade path for both? would that mean you pay for both upgrades if you want to upgrade Cubase and Nuendo separately?. Nice to try to understand because Nuendo should be offered a Cubase license depending on how this works in my opinion. thx
Thanks to everyone who provided a response to my questions. The crossgrade price is so low that my partner and I decided to go for it just in case we ever decide to do the kinds of work Nuendo is best suited to do.
yes been using Cubase/Nuendo for many years etc. Not sure this is super fair though to Nuendo users if you can now have two upgrade paths for both softwares (with the crossgrade)- I think in my case a few years back I did the crossgrade but lost my cubase license it was replaced as far as I know/remember. Good for those crossgrading though
No, that’s not how it worked. Have a look at your account (make sure that you use the right credentials) and see if there’s a Cubase license. If you didn’t register your license before the shut down of the eLicenser server you can still use your old USB eLicenser to run Cubase (make sure to download the eLicenserControlCenter in order to do so). You can even upgrade your old Cubase version to Cubase 14 if you feel like it - Cubase and Nuendo are two independent licenses.
Confirmed. I cross-graded to N13 using C13Pro, while retaining my C13Pro license from which I then independently updated to C14Pro from C13Pro. I then independently updated to N14 from N13 the same way.
There is one other thing, potentially important if you collaborate with other Cubase users by exchanging project files and folders – Nuendo cannot save to .cpr.
If you start a project in Nuendo, but you want to send a copy of the entire project to a Cubase collaborator, then you may need to load the .npr Nuendo file in Cubase, and save it to .cpr first.
Of course, if you cross-grade from Cubase Pro to Nuendo, then you already have Cubase Pro for that, and it should become less and less of an issue with DAWProject compatibility now in all Cubase/Nuendo editions from V14.
Actually, I remember the days when you’d lose Cubase in moving to Nuendo.
Pretty sure it was (as I remember) in the Pinnacle days when Fredo was the Nuendo moderator. 2005-ish or so. Maybe later.
Seems I remember the big bugaboo was you’d lose a lot of Cubase capability in the process of converting to Nuendo. Nuendo was purposely devoid of a whole lot of midi capability at first…and so….the nek add-on was invented for Nuendo….which I believe added $299 to the Nuendo price ….and of course….created its own set of forum arguments
You had to be vewy vewy careful with considerations in making the switch decision
I just crossgraded in a last-ditch effort to stay in a Steinberg ecosystem, and because I’m moving more into media production as well as music.
It’d be really nice if they’d converge these products more and more and if a Nuendo upgrade would automatically cover Cubase, as well. I’m dreading the upgrade pricing, actually.
So far, VST meter stability seems significantly better, at least on my MacBook Pro. I’m really hoping this doesn’t just turn out to be my pleading imagination…
That is probably the hardest question to answer, at least in this topic.
Personally, I don’t use any included content and would be of the view that there should be a content uninstaller made, since now we are using Steinberg Licensing, software rather than a hardware/software combination, e.g., eLc so…
…saying that I would advise unlikely, as this is proprietary software at the end of the day.
There is a post about a synthesizer Steinberg had a company make for them that became unavailable upon application update, so best to err on the side of no.
They found a reason to treat users, this time so maybe there will be an across the board reduction, even it is small, that just means it won’t be even more later on.
