OffTopic- Thank you Finale, now Musescore is garbage too

Have someone tried the new version of Musescore?
Am I wrong or it is garbage now too (as to the new note input modes)?
It is for helping Finale users switching to Musescore studio.
I think that there are bugs, because it is not possible that this is intented to be the new functioning.

I tried it today. The original note input method found in 4.0 is still there.

Are you sure? I found some nasty differences in the behaviour, but maybe they are just bugs to be corrected soon.

I typed ā€œNā€ to start note input and used the computer keyboard to enter notes. I don’t use MuseScore that often but it seemed to be the same as I remember. Still a program I can’t seriously recommend.

I noticed some differences in the traditional mouse input behaviour, that I liked against the keyboard mode.
I hope I am just freaking out, but something happened, it’s not like before.

I don’t use Musescore. But honestly, one of the things from Finale that I do miss in Dorico is the ability to just select a measure or partial measure and drag it somewhere else to copy it. It had some pitfalls in Finale, for sure (I finally had to avail myself of a .lua script to be able to more precisely select notes), but it worked very well for me over a few decades. Not likely feasible in Dorico unless one unties a bunch of notes since Dorico is similar to how a sequencer works, but since Finale was not using that paradigm, selection, dragging and pasting worked great. I can sometimes kinda/sorta drag a measure to move it (not copy it) somewhere else, but not on a different page. Easy enough to use copy/paste in Dorico, but I do miss how Finale did it.

People forget that Dorico has two eqivalents for the much-valued Speedy Entry in Finale: pitch before duration (which i have on by default) and also duration before pitch (which is how I used Speedy Entry in Finale to input a bunch of notes of the same value, even tuplets). So honestly, Dorico already has similarities with Finale note entry mechanisms in many cases. Just less trackpad/mouse-centric. I’ve made peace with it.

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You can copy-drag in Dorico:

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I’m a huge Dorico fan (it’s changed my life, as a composer, honestly), but I really have to agree with you on the cutting-and-pasting problem in Dorico. Especially if you have music with lots of ties (often happens in organ music) it’s pretty clumsy to untie everything and then re-tie it. I keep hoping that someday, this might be a new feature on Dorico.

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@dtoub
I just tried the drag&drop function in Musescore and it has some hilarious malfunctioning.

For anyone interested in a description of that update, have a look here:

It also has two new functions that do nothing, really
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Sorry; forgot about that and yes, I’ve done that. But it’s not as reliable when I’ve tried it. Probably because dragging isn’t the main paradigm for dorico.

Come on. Those functions exist since MuseScore version 1, and really do something.

Let’s go to the gym:

(the video starts at a specific point to watch)

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Honestly, this is much the same as Speedy Entry in Finale, but also the same as pitch-before-duration in Dorico. Big whoop.

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I see a caret with wrong positions, and a ghost note I suppose is a reference for keyboard input, and another note I supposte is the reference for mouse input.
Is this reasonable?

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Why don’t you read the manual instead of calling it garbage. the original input method works exactly as before. The new ā€˜Finale like’ input method works as shown in the video. Copy/paste works just fine. If you don’t understand something, why don’t you ask on the MuseScore forum? There is much to be said about MuseScore, but it is not garbage and works quite well.

@graffesmusic
It is for fun, chill out, now Steinberg has to create a subforum for Musescore too.
Seriously, I criticized also Dorico without reading the manual, well, I was right.
Now I just ā€œknowā€ what Musescore is going to become.
The new functions are just going to break the program and introduce bugs, then corrections will be made that will introduce other bugs.
They cannot revert what they have done.
I see that the music is changed automatically as Dorico does, but maybe this is a false impression? I do not know.
I hope I am wrong this time, because Musescore is very useful to me.

Honestly … Musescore is the easiest app to use to write on the fly … the right click select same object is very useful … but the rests are still needs to improve … anyway this is one example from Musescore … I mean, it’s not that really garbage tho.

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@odhot
I agree that Musescore as formerly known is very good, with some defects (in playback for example), and it is a superior application in terms of modernity and base design ideas.
I think that its stregth points should have been retained as non-negotiable, so everything mouse related and visual should have been improved and expanded instead of Finalising and Doricising the application.