Organ!

Thank you dko22. I didn’t understand at all that new PT are to be created in Engrave Mode !! (I never went there, it will be my first time !) What I did was to create an Expression map in Play mode and then tell the vst to use it. You gave me the missing step ! I will have a try asap.

That’s exactly my config.

My “Edit playing Techniques” Dialog box has not all these options :frowning:
Where did you find the one you show in the screenshot ?

Found this interesting topic for people like me wanting to create expression maps for Aria Player :
http://friendsofgarritan.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=33&sid=e6432ad23fca07605d9c30b13e822a6e

you need to go into the Engrave tab → Playing techniques, not the one in the Play tab. I agree it’s confusing and I think the team are aware that a bit of a redesign is needed in this area of playing techniques and especially endpoints/playback configurations

I’ve created Ex maps and Dorico documents from which you can save your own endpoints and then create Playing Templates for GPO5 here:

which may be useful.

Just to clarify, are we talking about playING techniques, or playBACK techniques? The former is created in write mode, and is a visual indication in the score, which links to a playBACK technique.

Which speaks to the need for improved clarification that you already pointed out.

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the playING techniques of course incorporate playBACK techniques. That’s why the PlayING Techniques from the Engrave menu (completely the wrong place for it imho but never mind) is the best place to create new ones so they appear in the score and there they can be linked to the appropriate playBACK techniques which is what you see in the Expression Maps and what you see in the tooltips when hovering with the mouse over the PlayING techniques in Write mode. Don’t worry, @Axel , it took me a while before I understood all this.

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Thanks a lot !

Indeed it is very confusing! Hopefully all of this will be clarified and unified in v4!

hmm… I will have to learn what an endpoint is :wink:

Thanks dko22, I started to tell myself that I was totally stupid :wink:
You said “the best place”… Would there be another ?!

I expect you’ve already worked this out but the screenshot below shows that the playBACK techniques are part of the playING technique dialog but it doesn’t work the other way round.

To answer your question directly, you could create a keyboard shortcut for Engrave–> Playing techniques shortcuts but why bother…

How much of all this will be addressed with the initial release of v4 is anyone’s guess. The thing is, there nothing wrong with the functionality in my view, it’s really just ensuring that the terminology is clear and clearly documented.

It’s now clear… thank’s to you !

thanks for information

Welcome to the forum, @Path_to_Grow !

Thank you for your help ! Here is the resultat :
https://soundcloud.com/axel-casadesus/toccata
https://u.pcloud.link/publink/show?code=XZgfJNXZlDB0R8RVhwJynyMTSiHPspNWWXs7

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I tried to learn to play the organ briefly at school which was a very BAD idea as I had more than enough problems putting two hands together before adding feet. However this is a remarkably compelling work for an organ agnostic. Certainly more interesting than the endless output of a certain composer beginning with B (now he hides under a rock… :grinning: )

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Thanks and LOL ! I’m agnostic as well, but I love organ :wink:

https://soundcloud.com/axel-casadesus

for his safety, he better stay under the aforementioned rock for a while, lol.

them’s fightin’ words!