I’ve been making and editing a lot of playing techniques lately and it’s been going well until today when one of my graphic-based symbols just up and vanished. Then two of my text-based symbols did the same. And I could not rescue any of these three. Couldn’t edit them or anything of the sort.
Is this a known bug?
TIA
Can you upload a blank project with these playing techniques?
I deleted them. And another one just now disappeared on me. These are imported svg’s that were working fine, but after I’ve been editing them for awhile one will just disappear altogether.
Here’s the file with two examples still in it that happened more recently that I didn’t delete.
Go to: Playing Techniques > Pitched Percussion.
The one named BDLC and the one name PDLT 1 are the bad ones.
The BDLC is supposed to be text-based and I have bdlc in the text box, but it is not appearing.
The PDLT 1 is supposed to be glyph-based. The svg glyph that was there just vanished suddenly when I was editing other playing techniques. I didn’t delete it, and it was already being used in several places in the project and in other playing techniques as well from the Composite reservoir.
On my end if I double-click the window to open the symbols editor nothing happens. Over and over I tried. If I go to an adjacent technique and do the same, the editor window will open.
Also, when I switch the BDLC playing technique to glyph-based, double-clicking on that window will not open the symbol editor either. And when I switch the PDLT 1 to text-based, when I enter text in the text box and press enter, no text appears in the window.
They both seem to be broken in the same way. This happened today earlier with a couple of other symbols that I now have to import again and redesign several playing techniques since they were being used in a few of them.
BDLC & PDLT 1.dorico (2.5 MB)
I can see that the file is in an odd state, but I can’t immediately work out how it might have got like that. The thing I’m most suspicious of is that you say you have multiple playing techniques that refer to the same imported SVG. That should work fine, of course, but I wonder if an edit done to one of the playing techniques could have accidentally affected another one that used the same SVG. Do you know what edits you might have been doing that triggered the problem?
What I do is I import the svg and then define that as a playing technique symbol, and I size it. Thereafter when I need to combine it with another symbol I grab it from the Composite reservoir and it is already the size I need since it’s based on the original I imported and sized.
The ones that disappeared on me weren’t being worked on at the time. I couldn’t have accidentally deleted them (they were gone from the list of imported svg’s as well), and deleting them requires a particularly conscious set of actions, and I’d have had to make that goof a number of times, I think about four or five in all disappeared on me.
Thanks for checking the file. Appreciate it.
Sorry, when I said “accidentally” I meant an accidental bug in Dorico, rather than an accidental action by you. I’ll have another go at trying to reproduce the problem - thanks.
Right, I think the problem here isn’t to do with playing techniques that refer to the same SVG (despite what I said in my previous post), but instead is to do with playing techniques that refer to the same composite. If the composite was originally defined by creating a user-defined playing technique, that playing technique still “owns” the composite. If you then edit the original playing technique - e.g. you delete it - that will affect the composite everywhere else. I can’t provoke a situation which is exactly like that in the project file you posted earlier in this thread, but I think it must be a related issue.
Thanks for checking this out. Just to reiterate, I wasn’t in the process of deleting any symbols or svg’s.
Did you confirm that those two playing techniques are broken, not editable?
Yes, that I can see from your project, but it doesn’t reveal exactly how it got like that. Is it possible that you were changing a playing technique from a glyph type to a text type? That will potentially discard some of the composites too.