Greetings DaDa! Cubase and my studio are my principle source if income these days. You really can’t stand the idea that everyone is not up in arms over the simplest issues as you always are. You’ve had Cubase for 30 years now ,right?You’ve even taken your Atari to Cubase headquarters and met with Charlie Steinberg to show him bugs. Over the years you,Ve gotten every update and as soon as they’ve come out you find a show stopper that immediately causes you to revert back. My question ,which I’ve asked you before, is why on earth do you continue to use this product?? Also,isn’t it time you recognize that maybe you have a higher standard for software (100 percent perfection with no issues and only changes that you like) than anyone else? Just think for a second. There must be at least 40,000 Cubase users around the world , and likely 10k using 7.03. Now add up all the folks here who proclaim that they just can’t go on in life with this update. All I’m saying really is that the problems ,known bugs are not likely effecting all the same way and its not implausible that some of us can work smoothly with customers. A searchable mixer far outweighs incremental resizing that I can barely see.
Jan I continue to respect you in spite of my comments ,you are tenacious and have been a help to me
Ehh… I have read the poll very, very carefully…, but I really did not see any remark that this poll is only meant for those people that own Cubase for a living, have a big studio, and/or have a lot of customers, or that people have to shown their credentials to be allowed to vote.
In my humble opinion everybody that forked out the money that is needed to buy this product has a right to give an opinion. I think it is safe to say nobody will pay that amount of money just to record a 5 minute bird song in the garden, or just to impress a few friends. Thereby - this is poll not about the question if the product has to be improved or not (like has been suggested by some people here), but plain and simply if the users here are using 7.0.3 or not.
As far as the outcome from this poll has any reasonable value, it seems most people that voted seem to not been bitten by the bugs, have a workaround that works good or/and adapted to the new workflow. That wont suggest the 7.0.3 users has no problem at all - only that they can use it without having significant problems.
Maybe the topicstarter can add something like: “using 7.0.3 but with work-arounds”, “can use 7.0.3 but barely, and hoping for a fast update” or “using 7.0.3 without any problem” to the poll. That would give a bit more insight in what really is behind those votes.
DaDa - you say you are just trying to make the poll results more clear but actually you seem to be trying to twist them to fit your view. Fact is many people, professional or not are using Cubase 7 just fine.
…and perhaps we non-professionals are providing a valuable service by helping to debug early releases of software.
Nobody’s making anybody upgrade, and when I was an IT professional (before retirement) would never have dreamt of risking new software on production systems.
Another question, has anybody who expects new releases to be trouble free ever worked in the IT industry or even been a beta tester?
P.S. in case it’s not obvious from the above I don’t earn a living from Cubase
Greetings Mr.M.
You have a (nearly) perfectly working memory … and thanks for the kind words.
Correction : I’ve skipped C4. ( But I guess I complained nevertheless )
If You read my last post again, You’ll find 2 things :
We mostly agree
The reason, why I still use Cubase and why I pay for testing
It’s obvious, that You belong to the user profiles : “relaxed” and “not affected”
I do not have a problem with people belonging to said profiles !
And I do not have a problem with part time users !
You are the ones, that keep Steinberg alive !
That’s why I marked two points in my post above, with a “+”
Regarding
higher standard for software (100 percent perfection with no issues and only changes that you like)
Cubase 6.5.3 is only around 70% on my perfection scale.
I work around a lot of issues, but I do get my work done, pretty well.
And I repeat : the competition is still not offering all basic functionality, I need.
so I’ll be here a bit longer …
Yep, that is great !
Sure enough, a professional can belong to the user profiles
“relaxed”, “take broken software as todays standard” and “not affected”.
I still think, that’s the exception to the rule, though.
The forum does not completely reflect this, as many users with a similar user profile, like mine,
have been banned or left Steinberg, long ago.
And again, I don’t want to belittle any kind of user !
It just frightens me a bit, that the big majority is either not affected
or accepting the current state of C7 …
Why are you scared? Many of us can use 7.03 but it doesn’t mean that we’re satisfied. This poll means nothing - SB won’t stop fixing bugs because of this poll, we won’t stop asking for more… so, there’s nothing to worry about.
Ok, to call it “major problems” was perhaps not entirely correct. On the other hand, you tried 7.03 and then decided not to use it cause (as you said) you found it to have “bad implementation of things”. If things are so poorly implemented that you stop using the program, then this bad implementation is actually causing you major problems with workflow, or whatever. What I’m trying to say is that at the end of the day, to call it “major problems” or “bad implementation” is pure semantics. Fact is that there are things in 7.03 that made you go back to a previous version.
This would be interesting info as well, but it would be answering a different question than the one that is being asked in this poll. Purpose of this poll is only to see how many people kept 7.03 and how many did not, it’s rather a yes or no. Of course, to ask for more details would be interesting as well, but this should be done in a separate poll imho.
OK, good point.
Thinking about it … this user profile gives a ‘false positive’ in this poll …
Well … not sure about that …
Such polls ‘help’ newcomers. Theses are Steinberg’s main ‘money source’.
So seeing such a positive poll result, will not stop Steinberg fixing bugs,
but can very well slow down the process.
And may ‘allow’ them to let severe minority issues unfixed.
Remember, they still have too many products and too few resources.
I think this poll changes nothing (I’m absolutely sure ). We have no idea about “numbers”, I mean real Cubase 7 user base. Total vote: 182, how much is this? Is this 2% or 99% of sold copies? SB will not slow down or speed up their “boogie” with C7. There’s no rush, because it’s usable already, but it’s too early to stop and rest on their laurels, because there’s a work to do. SB is a well known world company and I believe the team works for good image (and self-respect) either.
Newcomers won’t be disappointed, after all C7 is far from being a bad software.
I haven’t started this poll for things to get changed or fixed, or to show how good or bad Cubase is. Actually, I only wanted to know if other people are coping with 7.03, cause I personally think that it is worse than 7.02. The result so far is interesting, cause it shows that most people don’t see it this way.
The poll is not too representative, of course, cause the number of samples is way too low. But this is not a particularity of this poll here, it also applies to every other poll in the forums.
Besides, the current result of 75% vs. 25% appeared very soon and hasn’t changed much since then. Statistically speaking, the standard deviation is rather low and thus, the result is probably an acceptable approximation.
There isn’t an option for me in the poll - on 7.0.2 and won’t try 7.0.3. My issue is that they fixed a “bug” which I thought was a feature and a reason to upgrade from 6.0.7 - in 7.0.2 names in the mixer are truncated to the first characters, not “intelligently” shortened which I hate.
Have to say I’m finding 7.0.2 a pretty smooth ride, I like it. I’ll stick on 7.0.2 until they introduce a preference to choose how the naming works (reverting back to 7.0.2 behaviour for everyone seems unlikely).
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). We have no idea about “numbers”, I mean real Cubase 7 user base. Total vote: 182, how much is this? Is this 2% or 99% of sold copies? SB will not slow down or speed up their “boogie” with C7. There’s no rush, because it’s usable already, but it’s too early to stop and rest on their laurels, because there’s a work to do. SB is a well known world company and I believe the team works for good image (and self-respect) either.