Run Audio Interface Software INSIDE of Cubase?

Hi,
I have Babyface Pro and it comes with control software called Totalmix. This software controls the hardware or the physical ‘box’ and allows you mute/unmute certain inputs and outputs, etc.

I am quite certain other audio interface products (like Universal Audio and others), have similar software.

PROBLEM: Back and forth, back and forth, back and forth… any changes I made to the audio interface via their software - causes me to leave Cubase, and then I have to switch ‘windows’ or applications and come back into Cubase to record.

Is there a way to “run” this type of software inside Cubase (to avoid the pain of the back and forth)???

You can run them side by side. Have them both on screen at the same time. In studio>studio setup> audio system deactivate “Release driver when application is in background”. Otherwise, it is what it is. Two different applications. Multiple screens might help. And Alt-tab (if you are on Windows) lets you toggle open windows. Also, there is an iPad control app for totalmix. ‎TotalMix FX for iPad on the App Store
This is the best option to control totalmix.
https://www.rme-audio.de/downloads/bface_pro_e.pdf
TotalMix Remote .page 74

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Edited as I misread jb1’s reply. I leave below here for for context so that later comments still make sense.

NO! Please don’t use that option. I am sorry to say, but this is very bad advice. “Release driver…” is to be used for ASIO drivers that are not multi-client capable. RME’s driver are multi-client, as are most other ASIO drivers nowadays.

Sorry to be so harsh.

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The question is: Why do you use TotalMix and Cubase at the same time? I have a very static setup in TotalMix and regulate everything through Cubase.
Please note that TotalMix has two different modes: normal and DAW mode. DAW mode gets rid of the software playback channels, so that it is easier to control all levels from Cubase.

What do you do in TotalMix that cannot be done in Cubase?

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I have the Babyface pro fs as well and do t touch TotalMix while in Cubase. You can do quite a lot from Cubase in the control room. What is it you are doing so you constantly switch? By the way the answer to using it in Cubase is no it’s not possible and unlikely to ever happen.

You can however control parts of TotalMix via midi so there may be options there. Try the RME forum

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I also use DAW mode to keep things simple managing outboard stuff. Having multiple monitors helps, too, obviously. Don’t forget, there’s a lot you can do directly on the Babyface. Plus, those buttons are re-assignable. I re-assigned the A button to activate phantom power on AN2 because I use that all the time. And as mkok suggested, you can look into MIDI options, control things with a MIDI controller or streamdeck or something.

There’s also OSC. I highly recommend this little $5 application, Nix: Nix - Accessory widget for RME TotalMix FX | Bsound Ltd

From the webpage:

Features include:

  • On-screen display of up to three hardware output channel volumes, including Main output
  • Shortcut keys for the TotalMix FX window, mute and volume for the output channels
  • Display and shortcut keys for control room functions

You may find some of those shortcut keys useful. Here’s the RME forum page: Nix - displays/shortcuts widget for TotalMix FX Windows (Page 1) — TotalMix FX — RME User Forum

Do you mind if I ask you to clarify your recommendation? jb1’s direction is to deactivate “Release driver when application is in background,” although the rest of the post seems to imply it should be activated. I could be wrong about that, so apologies if it’s just me being confused.

Either way, you are in clear disagreement. But because I’m confused about jb1’s direction, it’s not clear to me if you recommend having that option checked or unchecked. Can you clarify? FWIW, I have had that unchecked for as long as I’ve had Cubase 12, probably longer. And the rest of your post suggests it ought to unchecked. But I figure it’s a good idea to spell it out here for anyone who happens to read this and get puzzled.

Sure.
In the distant past drivers, especially ASIO drivers, would be usable by only one application at a time. Therefore it was a good option to tell an app to release the audio device when the app itself is not in the foreground anymore. This way people could use the same device with different apps, just not at the same time.

Microsoft has done some changes to Windows’ capabilites in this regard. Nowadays drivers are multi-client and the OS supports this. That is Cubase does not need to release the driver = device anymore.
I am running sound from Cubase and YouTube at the same time through my RME Fireface, even the same output channels (outputs Analog 1/2) and it works like a charm.

If it does not work on a Windows PC there can be two reasons:

  1. the driver is not multi-client capable (either it is too old or poorly written, e.g. Steinberg’s Generic Low Latency ASIO driver)
  2. Windows itself has a setting where apps can revert to the old scheme and snatch an audio device for exclusive mode, thus forbidding simultaneous use; Louis wrote nice instructions on how to set up Windows in that case:
    Audio Setup Guide - for Windows users

This is the dialog box from Windows 10 (sorry, German), I marked the two important settings:
grafik

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Did you read this backwards? jb1’s advice on turning off/deactivate “Release driver…” is accurate.

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Yes to both. Apparently I need new glasses or new brain.
Apologies to @jb1 .

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Thanks, Johnny!

Thank you for all of your help. Here’s some examples:
When recording I turn the mic channels on(by turning off mute). and set the 48V power on. Then I will set the headphone mix.

??? How to do use TotalMix in “DAW Mode”

Thanks
AJ