Should I Cross grade to Dorico?

Does Dorico read/Import Sibelius files? (I have the latest Sibelius)

Does Dorico permit easy use of VST’s (I have East West Quantum Leap Platinum Plus Pro, Symphonic Choirs, Solo Violin, Voices of Passion & more!

I also have Kontakt 5, can Dorico also easily implement those sound files?

Dorico does not open .sib files. To transfer your music from Sibelius to Dorico you should save in Sibelius as MusicXML and open that in Dorico.

Dorico does support all VST3 plugins, and VST2 plugins via a whitelist (see the pinned thread on this forum for details about VST2). Play mode in Dorico is under very active development and improving in every update.

Dorico does support Kontakt (it is on the VST2 whitelist by default).

Thank you so much for the prompt and helpful response!

Much appreciated!

1 License policy is a major factor holding me back from even considering Dorico!

The fact that the soft eLicenser only lets you use it on one computer, or that you have to use a USB eLicenser to use it on more than one computer?

Just being only allowed to use on one computer is a major setback for me.

I already have an elicenser for Cubase verification & another for EastWest products!

I daily use two computers side by side, to compare various file layouts etc.

At the moment mostly Sibelius & Cubase Notations!

By the way I am not a technician but a Composer and unsure of what my VST platform is? I heard mention Dorico will pemit 2 & 3 whatever that means?

You can use your existing Cubase eLicenser to hold your Dorico license if you like, and then use Dorico on whichever computer your USB-eLicenser is plugged into, so it’s no more or less restrictive than your Cubase license.

Most EastWest products are VST 2.x compatible rather than VST3 at the moment, but they can all be made to work with Dorico with relatively little fuss.

The Cubase license system is very restrictive!

I don’t want a repeat of that!

Does Dorico do Ossia Staffing?


Dorico does not yet have features for ossia staves, but it will do in the (relatively near) future.

When Daniel was with Sibelius his support was fantastic!

It appears equally so at Steinberg - Dorico!

I really appreciate the prompt responses here also!

EW released Play 5.0.2 today with VST3 support, so no fiddling with whitelists, etc will be needed.

This is huge. Looks like Steinberg’s gamble has, partially at least, paid off!

Very Cool!

In addition to the comments noted by others i must add that the cost/benefit of Dorico is just not there. The price is ridiculous.

Dorico is really not the " gold standard in scoring software " ( that’s their own review ) and will disappear the same as Steinberg’s Sequel software.

I’m glad i went the route of trial.

I am a supporter of Steinberg for plus 30 years ( yes, from the floppy days ). Lately their new software is very questionable. They should just stick to their flagship software.

Not sure if it’s worth an ‘I disagree’ post…
Dorico really has moved computer engraving forwards both in terms of the ease with which you can do complicated things, and in the automatic output - far closer to ‘good’ than anything previous. It has oddities and bugs, but so does its competition. Some annoying bugs are a decade old in other apps, I don’t think this will be the case with Dorico.
Dorico also makes some straightforward things difficult in its endeavour to be semantic, whilst not (yet) being either comprehensive or open. ‘Gold Standard’ is marketing-speak, but if I had to recommend an app for someone without one it would be Dorico. It costs the same as a decentish acoustic guitar or a cheap digital piano.

Of course, if presently absent features are essential to your work, the cost/benefit ratio is going to be low until those features are developed. However, your crystal ball concerning the future of Dorico is quite different from mine. I’m not a dabbler: I make tens of thousands of dollars every year writing for orchestra, and I now use this software. There was a large number of Finale and Sibelius users who were getting frustrated with the limitations of legacy code, and this new product is exactly what is needed: a notation program which is built from the ground up, with a new approach which takes advantage of new technology and built by a team that had the benefit of looking closely at the present limits of the two leading applications. There are many of us doing serious work with Dorico - as is now being featured in Dorico’s blog - and I am quite surprised myself that I am presently using Dorico pretty much exclusively despite the lack of a few features. The thought of going back is quite abhorrent to me atm. Don’t get me wrong: of course I’ll be over the moon when I have figured bass and ossias available to me in Dorico. But now that I have gained fluency, I am working as fast or faster than in Sibelius, and that’s without filters and voice manipulation tools. I can’t even begin to imagine the speed and quality I will output once these features are in place, and they will be. The idea that it is a Gold Standard is indeed a marketing tool; what are they supposed to say? Buy Dorico: it’s pretty good? But in fact, in terms of engraving power and overall approach, it has indeed reached that goal and many users of Finale and Sibelius have written on competing forums that they believe this is the program to go to and that it will blow the competition rather sooner than later. I do believe this also.

Steinberg is in this for the long run. This is a very fine product they know will take time to develop and market. I don’t run the company, but it would be absurd to put the brakes on this and let it go the way of the dodo. There is no “perfect time” to release such a beast; it will either be too early or too late. However, by doing it on the early side, this team has now the advantage of being engaged with the users as it develops new features; something they have done with sincerity, celerity and professionalism during the Sibelius years. I see the same commitment now. So go ahead in expressing what you need. Rant, squirm, be exasperated and critical. I assure you they can take it and will listen to you as they do to all of us. I realise not everyone will have paid for the program and made the money back and more in just a few weeks. I represent a certain user and I know that many others have to budget these things differently since we all have different needs. But don’t dismiss the present users: like Steinberg, we’re here for the long run, and it’s already paid off for many of us. Right now, I am recommending Dorico to everyone I know.

Interesting responses both for and against. I’m still on the fence about going to Dorico. I question whether a product that isn’t full featured yet is worth a hefty price tag, when I could continue to use another comparably priced product that is full featured and mature. I have no doubt that Dorico will be worth the price in the future after many updates, but am a bit skeptical about Steinberg putting an immature product at the same price point as the more mature competition. For a lesser price, I would have bought Dorico by now.

Fortunately the crossgrade offer has been extended…


And remember, your original software does not stop working when you cross-grade.

After reading the above, I checked the EWQL website yesterday and was thrilled to see that VST3 support was specifically listed as an addition for Play 5.0.2. However, when I went to download the update today, Play 5.0.2 was no longer available. Hopefully, it will shortly be available again after some bugs are resolved.